Betfair the Masonic Lodge

The relationship between William Hill and the betting exchanges has not been a good one. On January 29, 2003, David Harding on the subject of Betfair’s impact on the the over-round said- “Some racecourse markets now return overrounds of only 1.2 to 1.3 per cent per runner. That is not sustainable. I cannot have a price mechanism for 50% of my business being desecrated.

In a recent interview with Betview magazine Ralph Topping, Hills’ current head had this to say of Betfair-

“‘I call Betfair the choirboys of the betting industry – “look at us we’re so innocent” – actually the exchanges are the biggest Masonic lodge there is.   They’re a massive secret society where illegal gambling is taking place. What would throw a spanner in the works is if William Hill came up with an exchange model which could be offered in our betting shops or through our telephone business.”

A fascinating portrayal of one of the most transparent betting companies in the world.

EDITOR&#8217-S NOTE: BetFair&#8217-s Mark Davies has his own take on the Topping statement.

Betfairs Liability in relation to its software failing

As somebody who likes to &#8220-back and lay&#8221- on UK horse racing, I was more than annoyed, when having placed a bet on a UK horse race, Betfair&#8217-s software malfunctioned, meaning that I was unable to lay off my bet as was my intention.

To those of us that engage in backing and laying, the result of the race is irrelevant- we are trading on price movements and price movements alone.  It was my belief (mistaken) that the contract that I had entered into with Betfair, would ensure that at all times Betfair would provide me with the means to back and lay, and that where it was unable to do so, the company would rule that as a proper market had not been formed on the race, my bet would be declared void, and my stake monies would be returned.

Alas, this was not so, as the following reply from Betfair makes clear-

&#8220-As the site was not available to any customers between 2 &#8211- 4pm, no bets were placed during this time and as this was due to matters beyond our control, our terms and conditions (11.3) state that:

We are not liable for the failure of any equipment or software howsoever caused, wherever located or administered, or whether under our direct control or not, that may prevent the operation of our betting services, impede the placing of orders for bets or the matching of bets, or prevent you from being able to contact us. In particular you should be aware that if you place a bet with the intention of subsequently placing a separate bet to reduce the liability incurred by the initial bet, there can never be a guarantee that the Exchange will be available at the point you wish to place the subsequent bet.&#8221-

As it happens, the race concerned was the 2.45 at Fontwell, which somewhat contradicts Betfair&#8217-s statement that- &#8220-As the site was not available to any customers between 2 &#8211- 4pm, no bets were placed during this time.&#8221-

That aside it would seem that I have been snared by Betfair&#8217-s all encompassing exclusion clause, to the effect that-

&#8220-In particular you should be aware that if you place a bet with the intention of subsequently placing a separate bet to reduce the liability incurred by the initial bet, there can never be a guarantee that the Exchange will be available at the point you wish to place the subsequent bet.&#8221-

I do not accept that this exclusion clause is fair or equitable, and accordingly I shall seek legal advice as to its efficacy.  In the meantime, I will no longer use my Betfair account.

Betfair are rumoured to be lining up for a 1.5bn flotation- it is a disgrace that they do not have back up servers to prevent their site from crashing.  When such an occurrence does take place, it is in Betfair&#8217-s interest to return all bets.  Betfair, the revolutionary betting company, have much to learn about the concept of goodwill.

BetFair (via Right2Bet) are furious at the new French gambling laws.

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Right2Bet (operated by BetFair):

A Senate hearing on Tuesday looked at ways in which the French authorities could make it more difficult for operators not licensed in France from offering their products to French citizens.

They are now looking at adding wording to the new gambling bill, set to &#8216-open up&#8217- the market in time for the World Cup this summer, that makes it illegal for any French-based company from taking advertising or even simply linking to certain sites.

Those sites based inside France, including multi-nationals with French subsidiares, notably Google, found to be &#8216-aiding and abetting&#8217- (no pun intended) foreign operators could face fines of up to €100,000.

This is just another example of the French bill being a facade. They want to appear like they are liberalising their market, to fit in with EU rules, but clearly they are going to make it as hard as possible for foreign operators to offer their services to value-deprived French citizens, and are even looking to make it difficult for those who do apply for a French license.

At what point is someone going to wake up and say &#8216-enough is enough&#8217-? Don&#8217-t wait for someone else to do it, sign our petition today and add your voice to the thousands of EU citizens already calling for fairness in online gambling.

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France = Communist China

France will soon block access to the BetFair and InTrade websites.

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Gambling operators that are not be licensed by France will have their web access blocked for the French public. The license would require that servers be located within French territory.

France = Communist China

Vernon Smith is bullish on event derivative markets (a.k.a. prediction markets).

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Vernon Smith (via):

So far as new applications of derivatives markets I think one possibility is we may see more people making, creating derivatives markets, betting markets on policy, public policy outcomes. We&#8217-ve already seen that with regard to the Federal Reserve. There is a market now in which people are able to make, take positions on the likelihood of a change in the Federal Reserve Bank policy at their next meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee, so and these markets are concerned with the question of what the Federal Reserve Bank rate will be set at. So I think we may very well see more of these kinds of markets and this could very well provide some indication of how the participants in these markets evaluate some of the policy proposals that governments are making.

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You cant have accumulator bets on the weather of neighboring regions…

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&#8230- because &#8220-if it snows in one city, it&#8217-s likely to snow in another city.&#8221- In other words, these weren&#8217-t independent events.

Via Barry Ritholtz (author of Bailout Nation)