TradeFairs David Jack = the $20 million man

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Hidden this morning deep into The Sunday Times:

Betfair, the online sports-betting firm, has invested ?10m to launch Tradefair, a new subsidiary company specialising in bets on the financial markets. It believes that the market for financial betting could exceed ?400m. [*] Tradefair will operate independently of its parent. [**]

?10 million = $20.3 million = €13.9 million &#8212- [Thanks to David Pennock’s Yahoo! Currency Converter. :-D ]

[*] BetFair and TradeFair traders share the same BetFair account, as I understand it.

[**] I suppose (based on BetFair&#8217-s share of the UK betting market) that TradeFair wants 5% of that (for a start) &#8212-so that would be ?20 million. &#8212- But we don&#8217-t know what that ?400 million figure came from, in the first place. David Jack&#8217-s wet dreams? For the UK market only (in an increasingly global environment for exchanges)? For what year exactly? 2008? 2026? Mystery. Of course, no source is cited.

Previously: Binaries and Spreads: BetFair spins off TradeFair. + Meet David Jack, the managing director of TradeFair. + TradeFair Binaries User Guide – What is Trading? + BetFair’s Global Warming Prediction Markets — CFM’s Views + Why does Tradefair care about Prediction Markets – by TradeFair&#8217-s David &#8220-$20 million&#8221- Jack – 2007-12-06

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InTrades global warming prediction markets are more socially interesting than BetFairs ones.

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InTrade has just opened (and not publicized yet on their site feed) a set of global warming prediction markets &#8212-more exactly, event derivative markets on whether the world&#8217-s biggest national governments will soon agree to reduce CO2 emissions under the UNFCCC treaty. They are, in my view, more interesting than the pitiful BetFair&#8217-s prediction markets on global warming (2 out of 3, I mean) for the same two reasons (but which work positively, this time):

  1. Uninformed traders will be able to trade their opinions. Most of the US citizens have an opinion (positive or negative) on the US Congress politics and the federal legislations.
  2. Informed traders (hopefully, the market makers) will be able to follow some advanced indicators (in the Washington D.C. media, for instance) pertaining to this upcoming legislation (if any).

Once again, it shows that John Delaney&#8217-s InTrade is the King of the Prediction Markets &#8212-and that BetFair-TradeFair is painfully playing catch-up.

Here&#8217-s the InTrade contract statement for the US &#8212- (USA agrees before end of 2009 to reduce CO2 emissions by 10% or more by year 2025):

A contract will settle (expire) at 100 ($10.00) if the United States agrees before the end of 2009 to reduce CO2 emissions by the amount specified in the contract by the year 2025 (relative to the 1990 emissions baseline).

A contract will settle (expire) at 0 ($0.00) if the United States DOES NOT agree before the end of 2009 to reduce CO2 emissions by the amount specified in the contract by the year 2025 (relative to the 1990 emissions baseline).

Any reduction target must be part of a United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCC) [*] agreement reached before the end of 2009. Any agreement to reduce CO2 emissions made outside of the UNFCC will not be considered for expiry purposes.

A reduction target does not have to be ratified for the contracts to be expired – only agreed to under the UNFCC. [*]

Expiry will be based on official and public announcements from US officials or the UNFCC Secretariat, as reported in three independent and reliable media sources.

Due to the nature of this contract please also see Contract Rule 1.7 Unforeseen Circumstances.

The Exchange reserves the right to invoke Contract Rule 1.8 (Time Protection) if deemed appropriate.

Any changes to the result after the contract has expired will not be taken into account – Exchange Rule 1.4

Please contact the exchange by emailing [email protected] if you have any questions regarding this contract before you place a trade.

Important:
Please contact the Exchange if you have any query or uncertainty (including how it may be settled) about this Contract, the Rule above or the Contract Rules before you trade.

There are 4 other contracts (E.U., Russia, Japan, and China+India).

[*] There are 3 &#8220-C&#8221-s actually. Those Irish bozos are not even able to spell it correctly. &#8211-&gt- UNFCCC (United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change). Look at the logo, below.

UNFCCC (United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change)

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UPDATE: Mike Linksvayer&#8217-s comment&#8230-

They’d be even more interesting if offered in combination with electoral outcomes and more yet if offered in combination with climate outcomes. I’m happy to see BINLADEN+MUSHARRAF contracts recently added, but volume is almost nil. Intrade (or someone new) will need better technology to be really socially interesting — be a source of many contingent probabilities. Many explicit combination contracts is just unworkable. I’m also happy to see Intrade offering several multi-year contracts, of which the climate ones are a good example. I believe the Google Lunar contract is currently the longest term one, expiring in 2012. I’m rooting for Intrade and for something better to come along, simultaneously. :)

UPDATE #2: I have just found out, this Sunday afternoon, thanks to a tip from Ralf Martin, that the InTrade global warming prediction markets were set up in collaboration with the London School of Economics&#8217- Centre for Economic Perfomance.

UPDATE #3: InTrade have corrected the spelling on Saturday, December 15, 2007.

NEXT: The London School of Economics chose InTrade-TradeSports over BetFair-TradeFair for floating event derivatives on global warming.

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Trade on BetFair with a TradeFair-like interface thanks to the BinarySoft order-entry software.

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BinarySoft:

BinarySoft develop innovative cross-platform software to operate with online betting exchanges such as Betfair.

Online betting is currently taking the internet by storm, with betting exchanges seeing huge traded volumes in a wide range of markets from sports to political and financial bets. The dividing line between investing and gambling is becoming increasingly blurred, with millions of people worldwide now actively trading on betting exchanges.

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BinarySoft BDI™ is a revolutionary new way to trade on the Betfair betting exchange. It uses binary prices to present a clean and professional interface for all Betfair markets and is especially suited to markets which have exactly two selections.

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Fallon Betfair Trial Collapses

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Mr Justice Forbes said today that Australian horse race expert Mr Murrihy in his witness statement had been critical of the riding in 13 of the races and that there was a prima facie case against the jockeys. However, he added:

Remarkably, it was only in cross-examination that the very significant limitations and shortcomings in the evidence he was able to give became clear.

In court, Mr Murrihy had said &#8216-it was not incumbent that I verse myself in UK or other jurisdiction rules&#8217-.

Mr Murrihy also said in evidence:

I have not said I was an expert in respect of UK races.

The judge said in his ruling today:

This is an extraordinary admission given that he was purporting to give evidence about 27 races run in the UK according to UK racing rules&#8230-. In my opinion, that was tantamount to Mr Murrihy disqualifying himself in giving evidence in relation to the suspect races. In my opinion it is now clear that Mr Murrihy&#8217-s evidence was subject to a number of significant limitations and shortcomings which were not evident from his witness statements and his evidence in chief. It is abundantly clear that his evidence fell far, far short of establishing a prima facie breach of UK racing rules. I have reached the conclusion that even if it was appropriate to admit Mr Murrihy&#8217-s expert opinion, its probative value is so limited that very little value can be attached to it.

The judge said there was insufficient evidence on which a jury could conclude that the jockeys, and therefore all the defendants, were guilty.

The British Horseracing Authority said after the case:

The restrictions placed on the three jockeys involved in the proceedings expired at the conclusion of the proceedings. Kieren Fallon, who is licensed by the Irish Turf Club, is therefore able to ride in Great Britain, and Fergal Lynch and Darren Williams are able to re-apply for their jockey licences.

Fallon&#8217-s spokesman immediately called for two inquiries into the case – one into the police testimony, the other into why the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) proceeded with the trial. He estimated the trial cost taxpayers ?10m.

Fallon, 41, from County Clare, Ireland, and two other jockeys, Fergal Lynch and Darren Williams, were charged with conspiracy to defraud customers of Betfair, the world&#8217-s biggest online gambling service. The former owner and racing syndicate director, Miles Rodgers, was also charged with conspiracy to defraud and with an offence under the Proceeds of Crime Act.

[External Link: BBC News]

Prediction markets do react to stale news.

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Gilder and Lerman hypothesised that past/present events can potentially assist in predicting future prices in prediction markets. They empirically revealed that prediction markets are surprisingly predictable, even by purely market-historical techniques.

Taking hold of the baton from Gilder and Lerma, Panos Ipeirotis and George Tziralis developed techniques for extracting news flow signals to see whether they can indeed be utilised to predict the future performance of markets on the InTrade prediction exchange. On the question of whether Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic Presidential Nominee in 2008, they noted-

Our sentiment index (in maroon) is close to 1 when we predict that the market will move higher, and it is close to 0 when we predict that the market will move down. Typically, it works pretty well for predicting long periods of price increases and declines. To put our money where our mouth is, the signal for the last few days shows that Hillary&#8217-s market price will edge lower in the next few days/weeks.

Following on from this we looked at the Intrade prediction market and the Betfair markets on whether Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic Presidential Nominee in 2008, as of 10.45 GMT on December 3 2007. Whilst the Intrade market suggested that Clinton&#8217-s probability of victory was 67%, the Betfair market gave a reading of 69%.

We returned to the Intrade prediction market and the Betfair market on whether Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic Presidential Nominee in 2008 at 08.45 GMT on December 7 2007.

Whilst the Intrade prediction market had previously suggested that Clinton&#8217-s probability of victory was 67%, it was now suggesting that her probability of victory was 64%.

The Betfair market which had given a reading of 69% on Decmber 3 as regards her probability of winning the democratic nomination, was now suggesting that her probability of victory was only 50%.

It is quite clear, that the both sets of markets are responding to stale news, with Intrade significantly lagging behind Betfair, as regards its ability to aggregate all available news flow. Those that had sold Clinton on Betfair at 1.44 on December 3, on the back of Panos Ipeirotis and George Tziralis&#8217- advice, are now sitting on a healthy profit. The claim that prediction markets are innefficient would seem to be gathering momentum&#8230-. with the most likely cause being the fact that they are not liquid enough.

http://www.bettingmarket.com/predictionstale.htm

GUARDIAN BLOGGER: BETFAIR SPIN-DOCTOR DOES NOT SAY THE TRUTH ABOUT SPORTS CORRUPTION.

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Lawrence Donegan:

Odds-on liquidity showing interest in Scottish youth

Can it really be more than a month since Betfair&#8217-s Mark Davies appeared in print to reject the suggestion that the gambling boom is in any way responsible for the apparent increase in corruption in sport, by pointing out that dodgy dealing has been around since the days of the gladiators? Presumably, reports of 15 football matches from this season being under investigation will see Davis, like Edward Gibbon in a pork-pie hat, return to the fray with another tale from the Colosseum. Meanwhile, far from events at Anfield – figuratively if not geographically – comes news that under-21 games in Scotland are the subject of huge bets by Asian gamblers. Some might think this is a sinister development but not the Betfair spokesman, who told the Daily Record last month that the company would be happy to open a book on the youth sporting market if there was &#8220-liquidity and interest&#8221-.

With all due respect to the Guardian blogger cited above, I side with Mark Davies. See his verbatim, just below.

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Mark Davies, BetFair’s Managing Director (Corporate Affairs)

Mark Davies (BetFair’s Managing Director)

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Mark Davies interviewed by The Daily Telegraph (in October 2007):

[Tennis] has always been liable to corruption.

I think that all sport has always been liable to corruption, by the very nature of it producing clear results one way or another. They say that chariot races were rigged for financial reward. I don&#8217-t see why subsequent sporting events should suddenly have been less liable to corrupt practice. We would strongly dispute the idea that sport suddenly has a corruption problem because of the boom in gambling.

The amount of money bet in the legal market may have grown — who knows if it has risen or fallen in the illegal one? — but the number of people who can be tempted by that money and use it for corrupt reasons is the same as it always was.

BetFair traders discuss TradeFairs 0-100 trading interface.

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And conclude that that&#8217-s the way to go!!!!! – (page 2):

BinarySoft Chris 27 Nov 10:38
I won&#8217-t be one of the initial MMers nope, but I may well do it at some point next year, depending on the spreads of the initial MM(s). That&#8217-s also assuming they do have a MM – launching TF Binaries without a MM would be a very unwise move! You are right that decimal odds are a bit counter-intuitive for trading – this is one of the main reasons why I developed BDI (binary-betting interface to the Betfair API) and it also means expanding it to allow support for Tradefair should be possible with very few alterations to the interface – possibly as straightforward as just displaying both BF and TF markets in the market navigation tree :)

BinarySoft Chris 30 Nov 10:32
If it&#8217-s a native binary exchange (and I suspect it is), then tradefair will remain a *separate* exchange, because the conversion from binary – decimal is not exact.

Dr Who 06 Dec 07:37
jules, BinarySoft Chris, or whoever you are, I take it you&#8217-re the guy behind BinarySoft. Just guessing of course.
Tell me, what is that nonsense on your site which says, &#8220-Binary prices are the most natural and intuitive way of expressing odds&#8221-? How can you possibly be taken seriously making a gaff like that? Why go to all the trouble to make decimal prices, which are in fact the most natural and intuitive way of expressing odds, into a completely arbitrary system like yours? When [Tradesports] started I spent a while developing an app to convert their daft Buy/Sell pricing system into decimal notation so I could arb between TS and BF. Now I&#8217-m sure there may be some city types who are used to the Buy/Sell system but to call it a &#8216-natural&#8217- or &#8216-intuitive&#8217- way of expressing odds is complete b0llox. I wish your software well but can&#8217-t see why anyone on earth would want to deviate from what is being offered on BF or Tradefair. Unless you can persaude me otherwise with an argument I haven&#8217-t thought of :)

BinarySoft Chris 06 Dec 11:40
Dr Who – I appreciate that binary prices will not be the most suitable for everyone, and also they may take a little while to get used to for people previously used to thinking purely in terms of decimal odds. However, the vast majority of the people who have made the switch to binary prices agree that thinking purely in terms of percentage chances is a faster and simpler way to trade (and also a more natural way to price any contract/market).
See this link for more comparisons:
http://www.binarysoft.co.uk/bdi/why-binary-prices.php
This states the case pretty convincingly in favour of binary prices – what advantages can you come up with for decimal odds?

BinarySoft Chris 06 Dec 11:52
Another advantage in favour of using binary prices for trading is that &#8220-buying&#8221- and &#8220-selling&#8221- are more natural ways of describing the trading process than &#8220-backing&#8221- and &#8220-laying&#8221-, especially for people who aren&#8217-t used to betting exchanges. Also, the fact that Tradefair natively uses binary prices means that Betfair appear to be in favour of this method of expressing odds (well certainly for financial bets anyway). The next version of BDI will also be able to access both Betfair and Tradefair from the same interface, with seamless switching between Betfair/Tradefair markets. Currently, users of Tradefair and (non-BDI) users of Betfair will have to keep on switching between decimal and binary odds if they wish to trade on both exchanges – it&#8217-s probably easier to just think in terms of a single way of expressing odds.

Dr Who 06 Dec 12:19
I said &#8221- My argument is that decimal notation is a much more intuitive and natural way to express [probabilities].&#8221- I&#8217-ve just read that back and frankly its complete b0llox. I&#8217-m happy to try out your interface Chris and see how it feels. I&#8217-m always happy to change my position if the facts warrant change but I found the Tradesports interface difficult.

BinarySoft Chris     06 Dec 17:04
One of the issues with that exchange you mentioned [TradeSports] is that it deals in &#8220-lots&#8221- – each lot is normally $0.10/point but it can vary for different markets and thus can get pretty confusing. Every other binary betting related product uses stakes expressed purely in terms of amount/point (Tradefair, other financial bookmakers and BDI).

Previously: BetFair officially launches TradeFair, one month exactly after it was announced on Midas Oracle, and the mugshot of its managing director published for all to see.