Prediction market sessions of the OReilly Money-Tech Conference suffer fatally from the absence of the worlds most knowledgeable, most innovative and most trustworthy prediction market expert.

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O&#8217-Reilly Money-Tech Conference – 2008-02-06~07

Predicting the Future of Prediction Markets + Google as Prediction Market

Wharton&#8217-s Justin Wolfers, Google&#8217-s Bo Cowgill, Inkling&#8217-s Adam Siegel, and Sean Park (representing Himself).

No more Robin Hanson. :(

Better to stay home watching a re-play of the December 2006&#8217-s Yahoo! Confab, where Robin Hanson does appear.

Confab Yahoo! on prediction markets – Streaming Video: 100k300k – 2006-12-13

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UPDATE: Robin Hanson comments&#8230-

I was invited, but the date conflicted with a SETI conference I&#8217-ll be speaking at.

The Future of the Prediction Markets

No GravatarEven a prediction market fanboy feeds on the polls &#8212-first and foremost. Steve Dubner, the journalist and co-author of Freakonomics, is, along with his two blog colleagues (Steve Levitt and Justin Wolfers), a strong supporter of the prediction markets. They all have blogged enthusiastically on prediction markets, since the inception of their blog. Steve Levitt calls the InTrade-TradeSports people in Ireland his &#8220-friends&#8220-. Wow. The Freakonomics blog even has a &#8220-Prediction Markets&#8221- blogroll (i.e., a list of external weblinks to the best resources on prediction markets) &#8212-where, of course :-D , Midas Oracle is the cornerstone. :-D To sum it all up, Steve Dubner and his colleagues are true believers in the predictive power of the prediction markets. Good.

Until you analyze this Steve Dubner&#8217-s Freudian lapsus:

[&#8230-] (Fascinating aside: according to a recent Times poll cited in the article linked above, the Florida G.O.P. race is as of now a virtual deadlock between four candidates: Huckabee, Giuliani, McCain, and Romney. This will almost certainly shift as a result of interceding activity, but still, what a spectacle!)

Which forecasting tool does Steve Dubner use to get a sense of the political race du jour? Not the prediction markets&#8230- but the polls.

That speaks volume on the nature of the prediction markets, as forecasting tools.

  1. The polls and the surveys are the primary purveyors of crucial political information, which the political analysts (and&#8230- Steve Dubner :-D ) use to write their reports.
  2. The political prediction markets feed on polls, aggregate them (and other disparate pieces of information), and delivers &#8220-the consensus opinion in a much finer and dynamic way than all the amorphous media buzz&#8220-. They are secondary forecasting tools. They are taken seriously only by the free-market believers (like us) &#8230- but, as the Steve Dubner&#8217-s quote shows, even the prediction market true believers check the polls first.

I think that:

  1. Because of its nature, the prediction market prism, which quantifies the impact of the news, will never be the dominant forecasting tool.
  2. Prediction market journalism will remain on the fringe. It should be developed to serve a targeted audience &#8212-the free-market believers, the busy people, and the event derivative traders.
  3. Conditional prediction markets (a.k.a. decision-aid markets) will never be taken seriously by the decision makers and the public. Robin Hanson&#8217-s tool is very smart, though. Applications should be found within the community of free-market believers, rather.
  4. Enterprise prediction markets (a la Google, Inkling Markets, Consensus Point, etc.) are very interesting because they reflect inside information that can&#8217-t be conveyed by the corporations&#8217- internal media.
  5. The prediction market approach (embodied by InTrade) will always be weaker than the betting exchange approach (embodied by BetFair). I still believe, though, that each prediction exchange should employ both &#8212-which is not the case, right now.

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ADDENDUM: In fairnesses to Steve Dubner, it should be noted that, in the same post, he put up a blunt challenge to polling methodology:

[&#8230-] As for the discrepancy between the two polling questions, take note: that’s the difference between a fill-in-the-blank polling question (i.e., “Which is the most important problem …”) versus a leading polling question (”Do you view crime as a ‘very serious problem’?”). The next time you read a poll and think it may be hinky, ask yourself what question the pollsters actually asked. [&#8230-]

Previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:

  • Red Herring’s list of the top 100 North-American high-tech startups includes Inkling Markets —but not NewsFutures, Consensus Point, or Xpree.
  • Professor Koleman Strumpf explains the prediction markets to the countryland people.
  • Professor Koleman Strumpf tells CNN that a prediction market, by essence, can’t predict an upset.
  • Time magazine interview the 2 BetFair-Tradefair co-founders, and not a single time do they pronounce the magic words, “prediction markets”.
  • One Deep Throat told me that this VC firm might have been connected with the Irish prediction exchange, at inception.
  • BetFair Rapid = BetFair’s standalone, local, PC-based, order-entry software for prediction markets
  • Michael Moore tells the Democratic people to go Barack Obama in Pennsylvania (a two-tier state), but the polls and the prediction markets tell us that that won’t do the trick.

Columbia Journalism Review not much convinced by Wall Street Journals Justin Wolfers

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[&#8230-] Unfortunately, by the eve of the New Hampshire primary, Wolfers was back in the Journal, writing this time that the newspaper’s own prediction market, WSJ Political Marketplace, run by Intrade, was showing that New Hampshire might be the “death knell” for Clinton and a couple other candidates. After a bet like that, in Vegas they’d say, &#8220-craps.&#8221- 

Humm&#8230- I don&#8217-t like this CJR piece, but it shows that many in the non-business press are skeptical of prediction markets.

Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:

  • I get a kick each morning out of spying on the rich, famous, and powerful people updating their LinkedIn profile and connections. (Go to “InBox”, and click on “Network Updates”.)
  • ??? BetFair bet-matching logic ???
  • Eliot Spitzer has simply demonstrated once again that those who rise to the top of organizations are very often the most demented, conflicted individuals in any group.
  • Business Risks & Prediction Markets
  • Brand-new BetFair bet-matching logic proves to be very controversial with some event derivative traders.
  • Jimmy Wales accused of editing Wikipedia for donations.
  • What the prediction market experts said on Predictify

Prediction markets = A tool for quantifying the conventional wisdom

No GravatarEric Zitzewitz responded to Paul Krugman:

Almost all of the serious people who study or work with these markets are not in the “markets are magic” camp.

My work in this area (with Justin Wolfers usually and Andrew Leigh and Erik Snowberg occassionally) uses these markets as a way of quantifying the conventional wisdom.

This has more value than may be immediately apparent. It can help you get from “the market rose 0.25% in response to Obama’s Iowa victory” to “the market rose 0.25% in response to Obama’s Iowa victory, which raised his nomination probability by 20% and did not affect the Democrats odds of winning in November” to an estimate of how much more stocks will be worth under Obama than Edwards or Clinton.

In corporate settings, a market can help turn something that “everyone knows” into an objective fact that can then be acted upon. The best example is probably markets on whether software projects will be completed on time– if a market run among the project team members says that the launch will be 2 months late, it becomes harder for the project manager to insist that everything is on track.

Eric Zitzewitz
Assoc. Prof. of Econ
Dartmouth College

Thanks to Jason Ruspini for the link. Jason also posted a comment on Paul Krugman&#8217-s post, and also on Felix Salmon&#8217-s post.

Previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:

  • NUCLEAR SCANDAL: HubDub allow their traders to bet on celebrities’ death.
  • APRIL FOOL’S DAY: This year, again, CNET makes fun of the wisdom of crowds.
  • Play-money prediction exchange HubDub is a phenomenal success.
  • BetFair Australia’s spin doctor tells all about their payments to the horse race industry.
  • Meet Jeffrey Ma (at right on the photo), the ProTrade co-founder, and whose gambling life is the basis of the upcoming movie, 21.

Felix Salmon slams Wall Street Journals Justin Wolfers -but not Chris Masse.

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Felix Salmon:

[…] And thirdly, if you&#8217-re Justin Wolfers, it&#8217-s probably smart not to make unhedged statements saying that Barack Obama has &#8220-better than a nine-in-ten chance of winning&#8221- the New Hampshire primary. […]

Previously: Prediction markets are forecasting tools of convenience that feed on advanced indicators.

Justin Wolfers aftermath article in the Wall Street Journal

No GravatarNot his best piece.

I&#8217-m sure he&#8217-ll produce a better piece on Freaknomics, or Marginal Revolution, later on. Or in one of his papers.

Previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:

  • Last year’s best April Fool’s Day Joke had something to do with the Wisdom Of Crowds.
  • Will HedgeStreet USA, the hypothetical InTrade USA, and the hypothetical TradeFair USA, be regulated in the future by a merged SEC+CFTC regulatory structure?
  • WORST THAN ELIOT SPITZER (if it were possible): Formula One boss, Max Mosley, had sado-masochist sex with 5 prostitutes, for 5 hours (!!), reenacting a concentration camp scene (!!) in which he played the role of both Nazi guard and inmate.
  • Is BetFair Poker a booby trap for the gullible novices? Does The Sporting Exchange (the operator of the BetFair brands) help gangs plucking down innocent recreational poker players?? To get an inkling, don’t read The Guardian, seeded by the BetFair spin doctor- read Midas Oracle.
  • The video that the technologically retarded BetFair spin doctor should watch.

Prediction markets are forecasting tools of convenience that feed on advanced indicators.

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Why were the political prediction markets so wrong about Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire?

&#8230-asks Slate&#8217-s Daniel Gross &#8212-via Mister Usability (Alex Kirtland), who needs to go and get his own gravatar.

So, I&#8217-ve been watching the action in one of the political futures markets this evening, Intrade. And the action in this prediction market has reinforced my opinion that these are less futures markets than immediate-past markets. The price movement tends to respond to conventional wisdom and polling data- it doesn&#8217-t lead them.

Throughout the day and into the early evening, while polls were still open, Democratic investors, mimicking the post-Iowa c.w. and polls, believed Obama was highly likely to be the Democratic nominee. The Obama contract was trading in the lows 70s, meaning investors believed he had a 70 percent chance of being the nominee, while Hillary Clinton contracts were in the 20s. […] At 6 p.m., this market had written Hillary Clinton&#8217-s entire presidential campaign off. At 9:30 p.m., it was calling a dead heat. What caused investors to change their minds so drastically in the space of a couple of hours? A few data points that went against the day&#8217-s prevailing conventional wisdom and polls. […]

See also Niall O&#8217-Connor&#8217-s assessment:

I am looking forward to the post New Hampshire Caucus, when all you prediction market advocates crawl out from under your stones. For the record at one point the market on Intrade and Betfair was suggesting that Obama had a 95% probability of winning the caucas- whilst Intrade had him at 77% to win the nomination.A case perhaps of both the foolery of crowds and, the market biting back.

New Hampshire will go down as the Black Wednesday of prediction markets and unless there is now objective transparent debate (as opposed to the usual biased sabre rattling) – prediction markets will be dead in the water.

My answer to Dan Gross&#8217- legitimate question and to Niall O&#8217-Connor&#8217-s snarky comment:

  1. Prediction markets are forecasting tools of convenience that feed on advanced indicators. When those advanced indicators are wrong, the prediction markets are wrong.
  2. If you prefer the polls or the pundits, your call &#8212-but polls and pundits were also wrong, this time, right? Required reading for mister Niall O&#8217-Connor: &#8220-New Hampshire&#8217-s Polling Fiasco&#8221- + &#8220-Analysis: pundits eat crow&#8220-.
  3. The ultimate forecasting tool would be a way to reverse our psychological arrow of time &#8212-so as to remember the future instead of the past. Only science-fiction writers and some imbecile ( :-D ) believe in that.
  4. The prediction market approach is to stick with the markets, on the long term. Take their successes. Take their failures. Unlike Donald Luskin and Markos Moulitsas, Chris Masse will not turn against the prediction markets when they fail punctually. What counts is the long series.
  5. My first point should be included in the prediction markets approach definition, in my view, but others (like economist Michael Giberson) might have different opinions.
  6. With respect to my first point, I bet that the prediction markets will never replace the polls as the forecasting tool of choice for political analysts &#8212-on that particular point (but not on a myriad of others), I break away from Justin Wolfers&#8217- irrational exuberance and I side with Emile Servan-Schreiber of NewsFutures (my preferred play-money prediction exchange). Prediction market reporting will have a function, indeed (as suggests Justin Wolfers), but not the dominant function.
  7. Going forward, prediction market journalism should emphasize relative accuracy (as opposed to absolute accuracy) &#8212-that is, comparing prediction markets with polls and pundits, which is what Robin Hanson has said from day one. Our good friend Niall O&#8217-Connor has difficulty to compute that, apparently. He should eat more fish. :-D

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Justin Wolfers:

In a few years, we may regard the second half of the 20th century as the aberration in which the press used polls rather than markets to track political races,” Justin Wolfers, a business professor at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School, wrote in an e-mail message. “And in the 21st century, we may return to the habits of the early 20th century, reporting on political races through the lens of prediction markets rather than polls.

Emile Servan-Scheiber:

1) The traders themselves are the first to look at the polls to inform their trades. So the polls are here to stay.

2) Our recent experience in Western Europe seems to indicate that the superior accuracy of markets over polls when predicting elections may be a U.S. artifact that isn’t so easily reproducible elsewhere. I’ve discussed this with Forrest Nelson of IEM [Iowa Electronic Markets], and apparently, ever since the Truman-Dewey polling debacle of 1948, U.S. pollsters have adopted a policy of reporting mostly raw numbers rather than projections based on sophisticated secret formulas, so they can’t be accused of manipulating opinion. However, raw numbers are notoriously unreliable when based on small samples, and Western European pollsters never report them, preferring instead to publish projections based on historically-informed statistical formulas. What we’ve observed in France and Holland is that it it’s very hard to beat the accuracy of such projections.

[I don’t make mine Emile Servan-Schreiber’s second point, but that’s a minor.]

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InTrade&#8217-s expired prediction markets:

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New Hampshire

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The Democrats

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The Hillary Clinton event derivative was expired to 100.

Dem NH Clinton

Dem NH Obama

Dem NH Edwards

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The Republicans

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The John McCain event derivative was expired to 100.

Rep NH McCain

Rep NH Romney

Rep NH Huckabee

Rep NH Giuliani

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Iowa

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The Democrats.

The Barack Obama event derivative was expired to 100.

Dem Iowa Obama

Dem Iowa Clinton

Dem Iowa Edwards

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The Republicans

The Mike Huckabee event derivative was expired to 100.

Rep Iowa Huckabee

Rep Iowa omney

Rep Iowa McCain

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Source: InTrade

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[A more complete prediction market reporting should have included expired contracts from NewsFutures and BetFair. Sorry for that. Note that InTrade-TradeSports is the only exchange to offer a “closed contacts” section.]

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NEXT: Prediction Markets 101 + Who did best in explaining the prediction markets to the lynching crowd? + After the New Hampshire fiasco, 16 people came to defend the prediction markets, so far. + The prediction markets deserve a fair trial. + Prediction Markets = the greatest time-saving invention of this century

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In a truly efficient prediction market, the price will come to reflect the influence of all available information.

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Justin Wolfers in the Wall Street Journal:

[…] Through this process of different people trading based on their own observations about the race, prediction markets prices come to aggregate disparate pieces of information into a single summary measure of the likelihood of various outcomes. Moreover, if this market operates efficiently, it will appropriately summarize all of this information and the price will become the most statistically accurate forecast of the election outcome. […]

If I may, I would like to jot down some thoughts related to my concept of prediction market journalism.

  1. The explainer on prediction markets is pretty good.
  2. Crappy URL: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119902559340658043.html?mod=rss_Politics_And_Policy
  3. No way to leave a comment.
  4. WSJ did list (in one of the sidebar boxes) BetFair along with InTrade &#8212-good point.
  5. WSJ didn&#8217-t list NewsFutures and Inkling Markets but listed their own play-money, bots-driven prediction exchange (WSJ Political Market) &#8212-bad point (conflict of interest).
  6. No external links embedded in Justin Wolfers&#8217- text &#8212-there are very good resources listed in the sidebar boxes, though (but the links use JavaScript and are not direct).
  7. No static or dynamic prediction market charts, even though Justin Wolfers spent a good deal of air time analyzing the recent prediction market events &#8212-a concept he formalized with Eric Zitzewitz.
  8. No tips &#8212-&#8221-I can&#8217-t predict what these trends will be […]&#8220-. Sounds like the prediction market approach (declaring that the market is a better forecasting tool than the polls or the experts) kills any anticipation and scenario planning. It shouldn&#8217-t be like that. Prediction market journalism can&#8217-t be only about analyzing the past. More on that in the coming weeks on Midas Oracle &#8212-not in the WSJ.

For all these reasons, I can give more than a straight B to Justin Wolfers&#8217- copy. You can do better than that, prof. :-D

Economist to watch: Justin Wolfers

Absent from the NYT list, alas: Eric Zitzewitz, Robin Hanson, Koleman Strumpf, etc.

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Economists to watch - NYT

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Justin Wolfers&#8217- website

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Read the previous blog posts by Chris. F. Masse:

  • Google Profiles
  • Event Derivative Exchange HedgeStreet is baaaaaaaaack… from the grave.
  • Sports Derivative Forum
  • AMERICA’S CULTURAL HERITAGE AND ETHICAL VALUES ARE BEING POLLUTED AND DILUTED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
  • I’m a big believer in the market, that it is the best way of aggregating information. Due to the law of supply and demand and profit-seeking, it has a better idea of what a price should be than any other way of determining prices.
  • WARREN BUFFETT: I said that the US dollar might be “worth less” in five to ten years —not that it might be “worthless”.
  • The Year Of The Rat should bring $$$ to the prediction market industry and the event derivative traders.

Does Liquidity Affect Securities Market Efficiency? – Paul Tetlocks new abstract

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Does Liquidity Affect Securities Market Efficiency? – (PDF – Listed at CFM) – [previous title: Does Noise Trading Affect Securities Market Efficiency?] – by Paul Tetlock – 2006-11-XX

The basic idea of the paper is simple. I measure liquidity and expected returns for various securities, and show that the two are linked. In an efficient market, the benchmark is that all securities should have zero expected returns. I find that the illiquid securities markets have (close to) zero expected returns, implying that these markets are efficient. But the liquid securities show certain mispricing patterns. The nature of these patterns suggests that individuals&#8217- probability misperceptions are the cause of the mispricing in liquid securities.

Note: the zero expected returns benchmark is a simplification. It&#8217-s based on the assumption that the equilibrium price of risk is negligible, which is a good approximation for most securities on TradeSports &#8211-e.g., sports contracts, and most of the short-term financial contracts. Obviously, this assumption would fail in conventional financial markets, where risk premiums may be large.

Previous Blog Posts:

Paul Tetlock on the inner working of TradeSports-InTrade

– No change: Mispricing is greater in illiquid markets + Justin Wolfers&#8217-s comment

– Does Liquidity Affect Securities Market Efficiency?

Short Odds for Ignorance

Gambling and a New Approach to Regulating Information Markets

External Link:

– TradeSports forum thread

Parting Shot:

Yeah, it was the Paul Tetlock festival, today.