Prediction Markets + Market Predictions = Collective Forecasting That Pays Off

Box office prediction markets don’t work out at the Iowa Electronic Markets.

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… and so the IEM honcho condemns the Cantor Exchange.

I disagree.

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3 Comments to Box office prediction markets don’t work out at the Iowa Electronic Markets.

  1. Medemi's Gravatar MedemiNo Gravatar
    December 21, 2008 at 7:09 AM | Permalink

    “The real money IEM markets do not improve on the forecasts from the Hollywood Stock Exchange, so financial incentives don’t play a big role in obtaining more accurate predictions,” Gruca said.
     
    That’s a new one. What he means to say is that his pseudo-real-money-pseudo-marketplace doesn’t lead to accurate predictions. Under the right circumstances box office returns (one of a few non-sports markets that has recurring events) is exactly the type of market that traders will turn into a science, an artform, given the right conditions.
     
    Which begs the question, what is it people really want ? Operators are only interested in making money, and the Cantor Exchange will fuck up this market faster than you can say “betfair”. What do the CFTC want ? What is it Midas Oracle wants ? To “trade” ? To “hedge” ? You don’t have a clue IMO.

  2. Medemi's Gravatar MedemiNo Gravatar
    December 21, 2008 at 10:13 AM | Permalink

    Since you’re not going to ask… what do we need ?
     
    - Stakes maximized at $2,000 – $3,000. That would provide enough incentive for traders to start researching, do some serious work.  I call them “traders” but a lot of them will in reality be positional players.
    - No market abuse, no market manipulation, no insider trading (see above). Knowledgeable traders are easy victims, their systems seek value and don’t cope well with criminal intent. Most of you wouldn’t know because you are not knowledgeable. :-D
    That’s where the CFTC comes in, BTW.
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    For a better future.

  3. December 21, 2008 at 3:04 PM | Permalink

    IOWA market to imply that they had a Hollywood product before HSX is disingenuous. Furthermore, my results when running the exchange were +/- 5%.  The problem was that studios did not want that information circulating and we know the story from there. 

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