Why I dont believe in VP prediction markets

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Because the decision to select a running mate is a decision made in secrecy, with many (personal or else) factors we are not aware of, and many things we are not fully informed about. Barack Obama and John McCain&#8217-s minds are not that open &#8212-whatever you can read in the Press from the so-called campaign insiders. That&#8217-s the typical kind of prediction markets that traders and probability seekers should not approach.

So, I won&#8217-t cover InTrade and BetFair&#8217-s VP prediction markets, here.

18 thoughts on “Why I dont believe in VP prediction markets

  1. Bo said:

    This is dumb. Cover them if something interesting happens. Maybe your theory will turn out to be wrong. Anyhow: Although the decision is made in secrecy, the Presidential nominees have a number incentives which we have plenty of information about. Specifically:

    * They want someone who will balance their tickets in terms of geography, race and class.

    * They want someone who will help with weak areas of their campaigns.

    * They want someone who will be a good campaign surrogate — giving good speeches and attacking the opponents effectively.

    * They want to avoid a VP who will de-motivate or offend the base.

    * They want to avoid someone with a bunch of skeletons in the closet such as angry ex-wives, out-of-wedlock kids, etc.

    * Etc etc.

    Anyhow, I don’t see any reason to ignore these markets in case something interesting happens. I read Midas Oracle so that I don’t *have* to read a whole bunch of other websites!

  2. Chris F. Masse said:

    @Bo: Great, a polemique. :-D

    The common ground is that:

    – I should cover them;

    – but with the mention that I don’t think they can aggregate all info.

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    […] purpose. That is complete bullshit. That is pure hype. As I said yesterday, an analyst should check whether a given prediction market is really able of aggregating important information. Just because John Delaney wants to create a betting market to get money doesn’t mean that […]

  5. caveat bettor said:

    Surely we agree that the error rates for such a secretive process would be quite high, but wouldn’t the marginal value of a predicition market in such cases, relative to more transparent processes, be higher as well?

    There’s no balance in looking at one side of the ledger (in this case, the risk side, ignoring the reward side).

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    […] I have stong reservations about those VP prediction markets. (But Bo compels me to publish about them anyway. […]

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  10. Bo said:

    This is dumb. Cover them if something interesting happens. Maybe your theory will turn out to be wrong. Anyhow: Although the decision is made in secrecy, the Presidential nominees have a number incentives which we have plenty of information about. Specifically:

    * They want someone who will balance their tickets in terms of geography, race and class.

    * They want someone who will help with weak areas of their campaigns.

    * They want someone who will be a good campaign surrogate — giving good speeches and attacking the opponents effectively.

    * They want to avoid a VP who will de-motivate or offend the base.

    * They want to avoid someone with a bunch of skeletons in the closet such as angry ex-wives, out-of-wedlock kids, etc.

    * Etc etc.

    Anyhow, I don’t see any reason to ignore these markets in case something interesting happens. I read Midas Oracle so that I don’t *have* to read a whole bunch of other websites!

  11. Chris F. Masse said:

    @Bo: Great, a polemique. :-D

    The common ground is that:

    – I should cover them;

    – but with the mention that I don’t think they can aggregate all info.

  12. STRAIGHT FROM OUR U-TURN DEPARTMENT: Here are the VP prediction markets -all of them. | Midas Oracle .ORG said:

    […] you love the Web? Within 15 minutes of my posting my absolute and definitive refusal to publish any bits about the VP prediction markets, I received a long rebuttal by Google’s Bo Cowgill —whose great prediction market paper […]

  13. ABC 20/20 - A good (but servile) explainer on the wisdom of crowds and the prediction markets | Midas Oracle .ORG said:

    […] purpose. That is complete bullshit. That is pure hype. As I said yesterday, an analyst should check whether a given prediction market is really able of aggregating important information. Just because John Delaney wants to create a betting market to get money doesn’t mean that […]

  14. caveat bettor said:

    Surely we agree that the error rates for such a secretive process would be quite high, but wouldn’t the marginal value of a predicition market in such cases, relative to more transparent processes, be higher as well?

    There’s no balance in looking at one side of the ledger (in this case, the risk side, ignoring the reward side).

  15. Who will be the next US Vice President, past January 2009? | Midas Oracle .ORG said:

    […] Bo Cowgill, I have stong reservations about those VP prediction markets. Read this WSJ post, for […]

  16. JIMMY CARTER: Picking up Hillary Clinton on the Democratic ticket "would be the worst mistake that could be made". | Midas Oracle .ORG said:

    […] I have stong reservations about those VP prediction markets. (But Bo compels me to publish about them anyway. […]

  17. Don't trade on the VP predictions markets. - Don't bet on Hillary Clinton as VP. - Don't listen to betting bloggers who tell you that Hillary Clinton has a chance. - Don't believe in "vice presidential selec said:

    […] I have stong reservations about those VP prediction markets. Only 2 men in the world know what is going to happen: Barack Obama, and John McCain. […]

  18. The vetting of the many potential Democratic vice president nominees was not as secretive as I thought. - Bo Cowgill was right, in hindsight. | Midas Oracle .ORG said:

    […] Bo Cowgill, back in May 2008 (when I started to act as a prophet of doom): […]

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