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		<title>Betting @ BetFair remains a mediocre-quality publication &#8212;triple alas.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/12/16/betting-betfair-crap/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have spent some time this morning browsing it, and I am sad to report that the quality of this news website is still very low. - The navigation is crappy. For instance, clicking on the BetFair logo will bring &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/12/16/betting-betfair-crap/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent some time this morning browsing it, and I am sad to report that the quality of this news website is still very low.<br />
- The navigation is crappy. For instance, clicking on the BetFair logo will bring you to the category root, not to the site home.<br />
- The content is written by second-tier, home-based, pseudo journalists who can&#8217;t bring any value to the topic they treat.</p>
<p>As a result, their PageRank is still 5/10 &#8212; Midas Oracle is 6/10 (and we don&#8217;t have any budget).</p>
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		<title>The value of prediction market journalism, which doesn&#8217;t produce any scoop, is zero.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/06/15/prediction-market-journalism-value/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Felix Salmon (in a piece about the ROI of web publishing): As real-money prediction markets become legal in the US, there&#8217;s surely going to be a lot of money in writing about them and driving rich readers to them. Total &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/06/15/prediction-market-journalism-value/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/28/blogonomics-monetizing-readers/">Felix Salmon (in a piece about the ROI of web publishing)</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>As real-money prediction markets become legal in the US, there&#8217;s surely going to be a lot of money in writing about them and driving rich readers to them.</strong></p>
<p>Total bullshit.</p>
<p>Carlos Graterol [*] and Ben Shannon both tried to popularize their prediction market blog (featuring InTrade 95% of the time), and they never managed to take off. The fact that InTrade needs websites to drive people to its betting operation does not mean that readers will appreciate prediction market journalism.</p>
<p><strong>Prediction market journalism (which sums up news and probabilities harvested from newspaper sites and from InTrade) does not produce any scoops. You need scoops to draw readers into your blog. <span style="color: #ff0000;">No scoops, no readers</span>.<br />
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<p>[*] He is a smart and sociable young man with a bright future.</p>
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		<title>PROVEN AND DOCUMENTED: Joe Weisenthal is drunken with his own manipulation paranoia.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/11/joe-weisenthal-manipulation-intrade-prediction-markets-health-care-reform/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe is going off the deep end. Market noises are now interpreted as the intergalactic battle between the pro-HCR and the anti-HCR, who are both seeking to manipulate the InTrade prediction markets. No evidence whatsoever is displayed. P.S: I am &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/11/joe-weisenthal-manipulation-intrade-prediction-markets-health-care-reform/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe is going off the deep end. <strong><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/are-insiders-launching-a-healthcare-counterattack-on-intrade-2010-3">Market noises are now interpreted as the intergalactic battle between the pro-HCR and the anti-HCR, who are both seeking to manipulate the InTrade prediction markets</a>. </strong><strong>No evidence whatsoever is displayed.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.intrade.com/aav2/trading/tradingHTML.jsp?selConID=709242"> <img title="Prediction Market Chart" src="http://data.intrade.com/graphing/closingChart.png?contractId=709242&amp;chartSize=S&amp;tradeURL=http://www.intrade.com/" border="0" alt="Prediction Market Chart" width="460" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><strong>P.S: <span style="color: #ff0000;">I am not picking on <a href="http://twitter.com/TheStalwart">Joe</a></span></strong>, who is a good web curator, and a nice chap. Just disagree with him (and <a href="http://twitter.com/Politickr/status/9970570491">Andrew Golberg</a>) that prediction market journalism is easy to do. Good prediction market journalism is very hard to do. Requires scoops and pertinent analysis. Scrapping exchange probabilities and aggregating it with re-written news is not enough.</p>
<p>ADDENDUM</p>
<p><strong>More info on health care reform on <a href="http://www.memeorandum.com/">Memeorandum</a>.</strong></p>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/09/insider-trading-intrade-prediction-market-health-care-reform/">Insider  trading in the InTrade prediction market on health care reform?</a></p>
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		<title>Health care reform is down to 47% at InTrade. &#8211;&gt; Toss a coin, it will get you the same.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/10/health-care-reform-intrade-marketing-bait/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So much for the &#8220;insider trading&#8221; who signaled the certainty of the adoption of the new health care reform bill. Joe Weisenthal swallowed InTrade CEO&#8217;s marketing bait. More on Memeorandum. Previously: Insider trading in the InTrade prediction market on health &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/10/health-care-reform-intrade-marketing-bait/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-why-you-should-take-the-intrade-healthcare-betting-very-seriously-2010-3">So much for the &#8220;insider trading&#8221; who signaled the certainty of the adoption of the new health care reform bill. Joe Weisenthal swallowed InTrade CEO&#8217;s marketing bait.</a></strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.intrade.com/aav2/trading/tradingHTML.jsp?selConID=709242"> <img title="Prediction Market Chart" src="http://data.intrade.com/graphing/closingChart.png?contractId=709242&amp;chartSize=S&amp;tradeURL=http://www.intrade.com/" border="0" alt="Prediction Market Chart" width="460" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>More on <a href="http://www.memeorandum.com/">Memeorandum</a>.</p>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/09/insider-trading-intrade-prediction-market-health-care-reform/">Insider trading in the InTrade prediction market on health care reform?</a></p>
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		<title>Joe Weisenthal is now in bed with InTrade.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/04/business-insider-intrade-probabilities/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Business Insider cites various InTrade probabilities. Joe should mention whether there is volume on each market. Joe should cite BetFair, not InTrade, for any UK-related event. Joe should be aware of InTrade&#8217;s long history of fucking up contracts and settlements &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/04/business-insider-intrade-probabilities/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-a-quick-guide-to-various-events-that-are-going-to-happen-in-the-future-2010-3">Business Insider cites various InTrade probabilities</a>.</p>
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<li>Joe should mention whether there is volume on each market.</li>
<li>Joe should cite BetFair, not InTrade, for any UK-related event.</li>
<li>Joe should be aware of InTrade&#8217;s long history of fucking up contracts and settlements on non-sporting events. (Type &#8220;North Korea missile InTrade&#8221; in Google, and review the various InTrade forums for traces of past fights.)</li>
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		<title>Prediction market blogger quits InTrade.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/01/05/ben-shannon-quits-intrade/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben Shannon: New Year Update Posted by Jesse Livermore on Sunday, January 3, 2010 I&#8217;ve been gone for a while. There just hasn&#8217;t been that much happening on Intrade, and I&#8217;ve been focusing on neuroscience. Intrade has definitely gotten tougher &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/01/05/ben-shannon-quits-intrade/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wiserthanthecrowd.com/2010/01/new-year-update.html">Ben Shannon</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>New Year Update</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Posted by Jesse Livermore on Sunday, January 3, 2010</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">I&#8217;ve been gone for a while. <strong>There just hasn&#8217;t been that much happening on Intrade</strong>, and I&#8217;ve been focusing on neuroscience.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>Intrade has definitely gotten tougher over the past year.</strong> I think the 2008 election drew in a lot of people who weren&#8217;t very good at politics or gambling. By now those people have either lost their money or gotten better. Hopefully the 2010 elections will draw in a new crop.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">In the mean time, <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Intrade&#8217;s management has not done a great job in developing the brand</span>. My impression is that volume is off by more than 50% compared to last year.</strong> Chief difficulties:<br />
- <strong>Absolutely no advertising whatsoever.</strong><br />
- <strong>Diminished interest in politics in an off-year.</strong><br />
- <strong>Getting money onto the site requires a lot of determination and a visit to a gas station to buy a Netspend card.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Future updates on this blog will be less-than-daily, basically when I have an opinion about politics that I feel like sharing.</p>
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		<title>After losing $6,000 on Chicago, Ben Shannon gives up on prediction market blogging.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/10/06/ben-shannon-gives-up-prediction-market-blogging/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben Shannon: [] I&#8217;m not sure how much benefit I get from running this blog. I haven&#8217;t really made any money on Intrade since starting the blog this spring. In retrospect, at least part of my motivation for making the &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/10/06/ben-shannon-gives-up-prediction-market-blogging/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wiserthanthecrowd.com/2009/10/internet-happy-box.html">Ben Shannon</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 90px;">[] I&#8217;m not sure how much benefit I get from running this blog. <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">I haven&#8217;t really made any money on Intrade since starting the blog this spring</span>.</strong> In retrospect, at least part of my motivation for making the Olympics bet was to write about it here, which certainly is <strong><span style="color: #0000ff;">a distorting influence on my decision-making</span>.</strong> The Slate article I was interviewed for in the summer got spiked. And apparently my readers are <a href="http://www.wiserthanthecrowd.com/2009/09/olympic-fever.html#comments">a bunch of dicks</a>.</p>
<p>This is sad.</p>
<ol>
<li>Ben Shannon has developed <strong>an original form of (subjective) <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/tag/prediction-market-journalism/">prediction market journalism</a></strong>, and I was interested to see where it would go.</li>
<li>If blogging distorts your inner decision making, that&#8217;s because you can&#8217;t <strong>keep your ego in check.</strong> Ben Shannon (who is in his twenties) is probably yet too green.</li>
<li>It is an error to blog in order to make money. <strong>Your business model should be dual:</strong> With the left hand, you give away something for free (e.g., your prediction market analysis), and with the right hand, you sell something else (something that has scarcity) to a bunch of customers.</li>
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<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/10/05/chicago-olympics-2016-summer-olympics/">Could we have divined that Chicago was a lemon?</a></p>
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		<title>The anonymity of &#8220;Wiser Than The Crowd&#8221; will expire soon.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The sometimes excellent prediction market blogger &#8220;Wiser Than The Crowd&#8221; says that he will disclose his real name, soon. (An upcoming Slate article will feature him, he says.) That is a great news, as it will bring more credibility to &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/07/04/the-anonymity-of-wiser-than-the-crowd-will-expire-soon/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sometimes excellent prediction market blogger &#8220;<a href="http://www.wiserthanthecrowd.com/">Wiser Than The Crowd</a>&#8221; says that <strong><a href="http://www.wiserthanthecrowd.com/2009/07/about-pseudonyms.html">he will disclose his real name</a>, soon.</strong> (An upcoming Slate article will feature him, he says.) That is a great news, as it will bring more credibility to his prediction market journalism, and will allow him to be a full member of the <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/vgh/152133">prediction market community</a>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a risky <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/07/01/blog-prediction-market-insights/">bet</a>. I bet that he is a neuro-scientist from <a href="http://ctn.uwaterloo.ca/">this institution</a>. We will see.</p>
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		<title>The prediction markets chalk another one up, as Susan Boyle is sent packing.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 01:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an ongoing disagreement with Prof Panos about how to report a set of expired prediction markets. He claims that one should report &#8220;the historic average of similar markets&#8221;. That&#8217;s important but not urgent. First thing is to report &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/30/the-prediction-markets-chalk-another-one-up/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an ongoing disagreement with Prof Panos about <strong>how to report a set of expired prediction markets.</strong> He claims that <a href="http://twitter.com/ipeirotis/status/1960942969">one should report &#8220;the historic average of similar markets&#8221;</a>. That&#8217;s important but not urgent. First thing is to report whether one prediction market of interest has <strong><a href="http://twitter.com/ipeirotis/status/1960060381">failed or succeeded</a>.</strong> I have explained that <strong><a title="Why reporting on *one* expired prediction market is no funâ€¦ when using the scientific approach" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/28/reporting-scientifically-on-the-expired-prediction-markets-is-no-fun/">that can&#8217;t be scientific</a></strong> (to Panos&#8217; despair) &#8212;it can only be <strong>binary</strong> (the marking of &#8220;stupidity&#8221;, in Panos&#8217; book).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/02/18/professor-panos-ipeirotis-on-prediction-markets/">The <strong>probabilistic and statistical method</strong></a> won&#8217;t be used when one reports about the expiry of one prediction market. <strong>People want to know how that prediction market fared. You have to report it in a binary way (right/wrong, correct/false, failure/success). Then, in a second leg, you can report &#8220;the historic average of similar markets&#8221;.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hubdub.com/m42972/Who_will_win_Britains_Got_Talent"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-14259" title="susan-boyle" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/susan-boyle.jpg" alt="susan-boyle" width="634" height="492" /></a></p>
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		<title>Why reporting on *one* expired prediction market is no fun&#8230; when using the scientific approach</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Panos Ipeirotis hates it when I report an individual prediction market &#8220;failure&#8220;. (&#8220;Stupidity&#8221; is how he labelled it. ) I am a fan of Panos Ipeirotis&#8217;s scientific approach on prediction markets. It is all right. However, I (obviously) won&#8217;t use &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/28/reporting-scientifically-on-the-expired-prediction-markets-is-no-fun/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title=" Prediction markets have failed at forecasting correctly an important event â€”*once again*." href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/26/intrade-sonia-sotomayor/">Panos Ipeirotis hates it</a> when I report <strong>an individual prediction market &#8220;<a title="Prediction markets failed miserably at forecasting accurately the American Idol winner." href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/22/prediction-markets-american-idol/">failure</a>&#8220;.</strong> (&#8220;<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/26/intrade-sonia-sotomayor/#comment-24122">Stupidity</a>&#8221; is how he labelled it. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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<li>I am a fan of <a title="Professor Panos Ipeirotis on Prediction Markets" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/02/18/professor-panos-ipeirotis-on-prediction-markets/">Panos Ipeirotis&#8217;s scientific approach on prediction markets</a>. It is all right.</li>
<li>However, I (obviously) <strong>won&#8217;t</strong> use the statistical and probabilistic approach when reporting about the expiry of <strong>one</strong> (or two) prediction market(s) in particular.</li>
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<p>Let me explain why.</p>
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<li>Panos Ipeirotis is a professor whose job is to instruct young people about <strong>the scientific approach.</strong> Fine.</li>
<li>On Midas Oracle, I abide also by <strong>the marketing approach.</strong> That is, I try to understand how people view things. Sensing how people can understand or mis-understand prediction markets is what I try (hard) to do. Turn out when I talk about prediction markets to people, the first question they ask me is, &#8220;<strong>How did prediction markets fare with Barack Obama (or George W. Bush)?</strong>&#8220;.</li>
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<p>My observations:</p>
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<li>People don&#8217;t want to be fed with statistical series about  multiple historical prediction markets.</li>
<li>People want to know whether one prediction market <strong>did or did not</strong> forecast the outcome of an event &#8212;in terms of yes/no, right/wrong, correct/false.</li>
<li><strong>People treat a probabilistic prediction just like any binary prediction.</strong></li>
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<p>Now, let&#8217;s take a look at how <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/freak-quently-asked-questions-nate-silver/">Nate Silver</a> did communicate with the public on <a href="http://gawker.com/5158728/apologetic-nate-silver-throws-statistics-under-the-oscars-bus">The Oscars 2009</a>:</p>
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<li>Nate Silver gave a set of <a title="Oscar Predictions You Can Bet On!" href="http://nymag.com/movies/features/54335/"><strong>probabilistic</strong> predictions</a>.</li>
<li>However, when he blogged his failure, he acknowledged it in the <strong>binary</strong> mode (yes/no, right/wrong, correct/false) &#8212;&#8221;<a title="Some Post-Oscar Thoughts on Forecasting" href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/02/some-post-oscars-thoughts-on.html">four hits and two misses</a>&#8220;.</li>
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<p>That&#8217;s how I do it, too. When one prediction market expires, I assess its past prediction as if it were binary (and not probabilistic) &#8212;in terms of success/failure. Which makes me an idiot in Panos Ipeirotis&#8217; book. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; (I can take it.)</p>
<p>Now, my challenge to <a href="http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~panos/">Panos Ipeirotis</a>, is this:</p>
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<li>Do blog the next expired prediction market (on any topic).</li>
<li>Do apply your scientific approach.</li>
<li>I bet that your blogging will be as boring as a fruit cake, because, by essence, you can&#8217;t say anything, scientifically, about <strong>one</strong> expired prediction market &#8212;or if you abide by the statistical and probabilistic approach, then you won&#8217;t really report on <strong>that</strong> expired prediction market.</li>
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<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. Midas Oracle should publish scientific assessments about multiple historical prediction markets. But to report about <strong>one</strong> expired prediction market, and to have a bit of <strong>fun</strong>, it is necessary to put (temporarily) science on the back burner.</p>
<p>As an addendum, <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/07/the-fox-and-the-hedgehog/">remember</a> that <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/04/28/simpler-input-mechanisms/">Emile Servan-Schreiber</a> told Robin Hanson that <strong>science is not all.</strong></p>
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