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		<title>BetFair Arcade seems to be a play-money / real-money gambling product that is going to bring problem gambling to a higher level &#8212;if the testimony of this recent winner (Â£11K) is to be taken seriously.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=32&amp;forumName=General+Betting&amp;threadID=1680027&amp;tName=RG+from+UK.+The+first+big+winner+in+the+Arcade...come+on+dowwwwwn&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=22"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9831" title="betfair-arcades" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/betfair-arcades.jpg" alt="" width="584" height="409" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<p><strong><a href="http://arcade.betfair.com/">BetFair Arcade</a></strong></p>
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		<title>NewsFutures do *NOT* favor event derivative management by traders.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Emile Servan-Schreiber of NewsFutures: January 29th, 2008 at 7:25 am Another important difference with NewsFutures (where people have been â€œtrading newsâ€ in 2000) is that hubdub doesnâ€™t give away any prizes to performers. That, perhaps, is a direct consequence of &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/01/29/newsfutures-do-not-favor-event-derivative-management-by-traders/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/hubdub-creates-fantasy-league-for-news/#comment-1947658" title="HubDub creates â€˜fantasy leagueâ€™ for news">Emile Servan-Schreiber of NewsFutures</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>January 29th, 2008 at 7:25 am</p>
<p>Another important difference with NewsFutures (where people have been â€œtrading newsâ€ in 2000) is that hubdub doesnâ€™t give away any prizes to performers. That, perhaps, is a direct consequence of <strong><em>the false good idea</em> of letting people create their own markets. This not only creates many opportunities for fraud (if, for instance, the creator of the market also controls the outcome), but it also encourages incoherent outcome definitions, unverifiable outcomes, and duplicate or junkyard markets. </strong>Same problems that Inklingâ€™s public markets suffer from.</p>
<p>Also, the mere idea of a Web 2.0 makeover of prediction markets is laughable. To paraphrase a good olâ€™ song from the 90â€™s, prediction markets were web 2.0 before web 2.0 was cool.</p></blockquote>
<p>Emile Servan-Schreiber&#8217;s criticism is pertinent. However, his conclusion (&#8216;no&#8217; to self-management of event derivatives) is too radical. Without Inkling Markets, we wouldn&#8217;t have had <a href="http://www.midasoracle.com/" title="2007 Writers Guild Of America Strike @ MO.com">Michael Giberson, who loves experimenting with play-money prediction markets</a>. Somebody will come up, one day, with the right technology (e.g., a reputation system) patching the flaws that EJSS addresses. One day, in the future, we will be able to enjoy both worlds, because they will have merged into one: the libertarian prediction exchanges <em>and</em> the disciplined prediction exchanges.</p>
<p>My good doctor Emile, remember JFK, who pushed his country to do things &#8220;<a href="http://www.hbci.com/~tgort/jfk_rice.htm" title="President Kennedy's Speech at Rice University">not only because they are easy, but because they are <strong>hard</strong></a>&#8220;, &#8230;and succeeded. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  Just because event derivative management by traders is problematic does not mean that we should give up right now. Kudos to Inkling Markets and HubDub for <em>trying</em>, and acknowledging criticism from veterans. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>UPDATE: Emile Servan-Schreiber comments&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>No one has a monopoly on user-driven content. Every exchange out there lets people propose their own ideas for markets that might be of interest to themselves and others. For instance, <strong>on NewsFutures, a lot of the general forum discussion is back-and-forth between the users and the admins about which markets to create next. </strong>Where NF differs from FX, Inkling and Hubdub is that the NF admins (which, by the way, are recruited from the user-base itself) have the final control on wording as well as settlement. That&#8217;s what guarantees the coherence of the exchange, which in turn means we are able to offer prizes, whereas the likes of FX, Inkling and Hubdub likely cannot because they give too much control away to unknown entities to guarantee the fairness of the contest.</p></blockquote>
<p>I like NewsFutures, and I get all that. But I&#8217;m saying that, nowadays, on the Web, people want DIY tools. That&#8217;s why HubDub and Inkling Markets are appealing to them. They don&#8217;t have to discuss &#8220;back-and-forth&#8221;. They create the event derivative they want. Straight from the producer to the trader.</p>
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		<title>Rasmussen Markets = InTrade&#8217;s Play-Money Prediction Markets</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rasmussen Markets = Yet another pointless and useless play-money prediction exchange, traded mainly by InTrade bots [*] &#8212;info that is not disclosed to the public, of course. [*] There aren&#8217;t any automated market makers at NewsFutures, my preferred play-money prediction &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/30/rasmussen-markets-intrades-play-money-prediction-markets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://markets.rasmussenreports.com/" title="Rasmussen Markets">Rasmussen Markets</a></strong> = Yet another <strong>pointless</strong> and <strong>useless</strong> play-money prediction exchange, traded mainly by InTrade bots  [*] &#8212;info that is not disclosed to the public, of course.</p>
<p>[*] There aren&#8217;t any automated market makers at <a href="http://us.newsfutures.com/" title="NewsFutures">NewsFutures</a>, my preferred play-money prediction exchange.</p>
<p><em>Links</em>:</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.intrade.com/v2/" title="InTrade">InTrade</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.tradesports.com/" title="TradeSports">TradeSports</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://learn.tradesports.com/" title="TradeSports (play money)">TradeSports (play money)</a> &#8211; <a href="http://play.intrade.com/" title="InTrade (play money)">InTrade (play money)</a> &#8211; <a href="http://predictions.wsj.com/" title="WSJ Political Market">WSJ Political Market</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.ftpredict.com/" title="FT Predict">FT Predict</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/predictions/exchanges/" title="List of prediction exchanges (betting exchanges)">List of the main real-money and play-money prediction exhanges (betting exchanges) at Midas Oracle</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/links/" title="Links">Complete list of the real-money and play-money prediction exchanges (betting exchanges) at Midas Oracle</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.chrisfmasse.com/3/3/exchanges/" title="Exchanges - Prediction exchanges (betting exchanges) organizing real-money and play-money prediction markets (betting markets)">Complete list of the real-money and play-money prediction exchanges at CFM</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard" title="Yahoo! News US Political Dashboard">Yahoo! News US Political Dashboard</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/predictions/" title="Midas Oracle Dashboard">Midas Oracle Dashboard</a></p>
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		<title>The Wall Street Journal Political Market = InTrade&#8217;s Play-Money Prediction Markets</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[WSJ Political Market = Yet another pointless and useless play-money prediction exchange, traded mainly by InTrade bots [*] &#8212;info that is not disclosed to the public, of course. [*] There aren&#8217;t any automated market makers at NewsFutures, my preferred play-money &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/28/the-wall-street-journal-political-market-play-money-intrade-prediction-markets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://predictions.wsj.com/" title="WSJ Political Market">WSJ Political Market</a></strong> = Yet another <strong>pointless</strong> and <strong>useless</strong> play-money prediction exchange, traded mainly by InTrade bots  [*] &#8212;info that is not disclosed to the public, of course.</p>
<p>[*] There aren&#8217;t any automated market makers at <a href="http://us.newsfutures.com/" title="NewsFutures">NewsFutures</a>, my preferred play-money prediction exchange.</p>
<p><em>Links</em>:</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.intrade.com/v2/" title="InTrade">InTrade</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.tradesports.com/" title="TradeSports">TradeSports</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://learn.tradesports.com/" title="TradeSports (play money)">TradeSports (play money)</a> &#8211; <a href="http://play.intrade.com/" title="InTrade (play money)">InTrade (play money)</a> &#8211; <a href="http://predictions.wsj.com/" title="WSJ Political Market">WSJ Political Market</a> &#8211; <a href="http://www.ftpredict.com/" title="FT Predict">FT Predict</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/predictions/exchanges/" title="List of prediction exchanges (betting exchanges)">List of the main real-money and play-money prediction exhanges (betting exchanges) at Midas Oracle</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/links/" title="Links">Complete list of the real-money and play-money prediction exchanges (betting exchanges) at Midas Oracle</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.chrisfmasse.com/3/3/exchanges/" title="Exchanges - Prediction exchanges (betting exchanges) organizing real-money and play-money prediction markets (betting markets)">Complete list of the real-money and play-money prediction exchanges at CFM</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard" title="Yahoo! News US Political Dashboard">Yahoo! News US Political Dashboard</a></p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/predictions/" title="Midas Oracle Dashboard">Midas Oracle Dashboard</a></p>
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