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		<title>OboPay is the first truly comprehensive mobile payment service in the United States.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OboPay &#8211; (via Park Paradigm, who invested in it): With OboPay you can instantly pay back a friend, split a dinner bill, get money from your parents, get quick cash, pay up or collect on a friendly wager, track purchases, &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/07/13/obopay-mobile-payment-service-in-the-united-states/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.obopay.com/">OboPay</a> &#8211; (via <a href="http://www.parkparadigm.com/2009/07/13/high-resolution-economies/">Park Paradigm, who invested in it</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">With OboPay you can instantly <strong>pay back a friend, split a dinner bill, get money from your parents, get quick cash, pay up or collect on a friendly wager, track purchases, check your balance</strong>, and much, much more. And, you can do it all <strong>from your phone</strong>; anywhere, anytime with anyone.</p>
<p>Would it work for real-money prediction markets (InTrade, BetFair, etc.)?</p>
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		<title>InTrade&#8217;s Moves Of The Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- InTrade have ditched &#8220;Wiser Than The Crowd&#8221; [*] &#8212;too independently minded and critical for John Delaney&#8217;s taste. - InTrade now promote Andrew Goldberg &#8212;you&#8217;ll never hear Andrew uttering any critique about InTrade (100% guaranteed). - InTrade now push NetSpend &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/07/05/intrades-moves-of-the-day/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- <span style="text-decoration: line-through;"><a href="http://www.intrade.com/">InTrade</a> have ditched &#8220;Wiser Than The Crowd&#8221; [*] &#8212;<a href="http://www.intrade.com/news/news_369.html">too independently minded and critical for John Delaney&#8217;s taste</a></span>.</p>
<p>- InTrade now promote Andrew Goldberg &#8212;you&#8217;ll never hear Andrew uttering any critique about InTrade (100% guaranteed).</p>
<p>- InTrade now push <a href="http://www.netspend.com/">NetSpend</a> under their traders&#8217; nose.</p>
<p>- What about <a href="http://www.noca.com/">Noca</a>, John?</p>
<p>[*] Look at the left sidebar.</p>
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		<title>How confidential is your confidential data in the hands of online payment solutions? Is Moneybookers fully in tune with the law?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Caruso</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All we online gambling players, ploppies, punters, squares, sharps and sharks share the common need of moving our money around as quickly and painlessly as possible. With credit cards not always passing muster, online payment solutions Moneybookers and Neteller are &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/07/02/how-confidential-is-your-confidential-data-in-the-hands-of-online-payment-solutions-is-moneybookers-fully-in-tune-with-the-law/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All we online gambling players, ploppies, punters, squares, sharps and sharks share the common need of moving our money around as quickly and painlessly as possible. With credit cards not always passing muster, online payment solutions <a href="http://www.moneybookers.com/">Moneybookers</a> and <a href="https://www.neteller.com/">Neteller</a> are a valuable resource. Also <a href="http://www.paypal.co.uk/">Paypal</a>, which still services a limited gambling market, and <a href="http://www.click2pay.com/">Click2Pay</a>, offering a kind of second-tier credit card system, have their place where credit cards fail.</p>
<p>Another useful aspect of the likes of Moneybookers and Neteller is their incorporation in the UK, putting then under the control of the <a href="http://www.fsa.gov.uk/">FSA</a> and answerable to all aspects of UK law, including the <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/Acts1998/ukpga_19980029_en_1">1998 Data Protection Act</a>. They have access to a considerable amount of sensitive customer data &#8211; credit cards, bank accounts and all manner of identity verification documentation &#8211; so the tight legal framework they are bound by is important for customer peace of mind.</p>
<p>But how secure is the data?</p>
<p>Just over a year ago I started having doubts, when a Moneybookers customer reported that his account had been closed on the basis of information received from a casino client, but without ever being notified by Moneybookers as to exactly what the information was &#8211; I reported on this my <a href="http://www.hundredpercentgambling.com/2008/07/moneybookers-potential-breach-of-uk-law.htm">Moneybookers: potential breach of UK law</a> article.</p>
<p>If you look at the &#8220;<a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/ukpga_19980029_en_3">rights of data subjects</a>&#8221; section of the Data Protection Act, this bit jumps out:</p>
<blockquote><p>7 Right of access to personal data</p>
<p>(1) Subject to the following provisions of this section and to sections 8 and 9, an individual is entitled -</p>
<p>(a) to be informed by any data controller whether personal data of which that individual is the data subject are being processed by or on behalf of that data controller,</p>
<p>(b) if that is the case, to be given by the data controller a description of -</p>
<p>(i) the personal data of which that individual is the data subject,</p>
<p>(ii) the purposes for which they are being or are to be processed, and</p>
<p>(iii) the recipients or classes of recipients to whom they are or may be disclosed,</p>
<p>(c) to have communicated to him in an intelligible form -</p>
<p>(i) the information constituting any personal data of which that individual is the data subject, and</p>
<p>(ii) any information available to the data controller as to the source of those data</p></blockquote>
<p>It seemed to me that these clauses had been breached, as the data had not been disclosed to the &#8220;data subject&#8221; &#8211; customer &#8211; in question.</p>
<p>More recently, another possible breach came to my attention: the customer of one Cherry Red Casino had winnings confiscated on the basis of information apparently received from Moneybookers. I requested and reviewed his email correspondence with the casino in question, and posted extracts in my <a href="http://www.hundredpercentgambling.com/2009/06/cherry-red-casino-and-moneybookers.htm">Cherry Red Casino and Moneybookers</a> article. Most worrying was this revelation:</p>
<blockquote><p>We have worked closely with third parties to ascertain which players are genuine and which are fraudulent and yours has come back as being connected to other players in Europe and as having transferred funds between Moneybookers accounts.</p>
<p>We are certain that the information we had received from Moneybookers and third parties constitute to the answers we have given players.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, confidential information of some kind or another was evidently disclosed, by the payment solution to the gambling operation, with no notification to the player.</p>
<p>Another player reported publically, on another similar case, in the <a href="http://www.gamblingindustryassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1971">Gambling Industry Association Rushmore Casino discussion</a>. Here, an affiliate representative gave a little more detail about the nature of the information:</p>
<blockquote><p>Moneybookers&#8230;only confirmed with us which Moneybookers email addresses were linked and had transferred funds between themselves, it was a yes or no answer and included no further private or confidential banking information or otherwise. Moneybookers&#8230;confirmed that these accounts were in fact connected and&#8230;transferred funds between their accounts also.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are a few problems here.</p>
<p>In the first place, confidential information is supposed to be genuinely confidential, and informing a third party of aspects of a customer&#8217;s account and the people to whom they make transfers is not an aspect of &#8220;confidentiality&#8221; that I am aware of. The customer in question was at no point notified by Moneybookers of the disclosure, in whatever format, of his account details to third parties.</p>
<p>I am not a lawyer, but this does not look right to me, insofar as it appears to contravene the section of the DPA that I quoted above.</p>
<p>In the second place, and marginally off the question of confidentiality but highly relevant to customers of these payment solution providers and the industry as a whole, is that this information may be leading to bogus conclusions &#8211; the fact that Customer A transfers funds to customers B and C does not necessarily make Customer A guilty of an illegal act. Whether or not the customer is guilty, the correlation between the guilt and the account activity in question is by no means absolute.</p>
<p>Here is a possible scenario:</p>
<blockquote><p>Casino: &#8220;We believe these two players are connected (and therefore guilty of activities we do not allow); can you confirm this?&#8221;</p>
<p>Moneybookers: &#8220;Yes; the two accounts in question have transferred and received funds&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>On this basis, to summarise my above points:</p>
<p>1) This disclosure to a third party of a customer&#8217;s account activity may be leading to entirely erroneous conclusions.</p>
<p>2) More importantly: at no point was the customer &#8211; or rather, customers &#8211; informed of these behind-the-scenes information exchanges. This appears to me, in line with simple reasonable behaviour, unacceptable, as one ends up being convicted with no right of defence. But more importantly, the nature of the disclosure in question does not appear to me to adhere to the laws I quoted above.</p>
<p>I have, myself, carried out a few &#8220;person to person&#8221; transfers with Neteller, the payment solution I use. I would hope that Neteller never disclose this aspect of my account, or any other, to third parties.</p>
<p>Whether or not Moneybookers discloses aspects of my account to third parties is irrelevant to me. I no longer use their services.</p>
<p>I will be forwarding this article to Moneybookers for their comments.</p>
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