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		<title>Once again, resignation prediction markets failed to the task.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigns. More. (Good riddance, by the way.) Doug Mills / The New York Times &#8212; Once again, Chris Masse was right on the money: [...] Just like the Olympic City prediction markets, the resignation prediction &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/08/27/once-again-resignation-prediction-markets-failed-to-the-task/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20459520/" title="Gonzales has resigned as attorney general">US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigns</a>.</strong> <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117408132373139865.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us" title="Attorney General Gonzales Resigns">More</a>. (Good riddance, by the way.)</p>
<p><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/alberto-gonzales.jpg" alt="US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales" /></p>
<p>Doug Mills / The New York Times</p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/08/13/does-this-prediction-market-chart-look-predictive-to-you/" title="Does this prediction market chart look predictive to you?">Once again, Chris Masse was right on the money</a>:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>[...] <strong>Just like the Olympic City prediction markets, <em>the resignation prediction markets are rarely predictive</em> because there arenâ€™t any reliable advanced indicators to guide the traders. </strong>The Olympic committee is secretive and does not grant on merit but on politics (or corruption). As for the embroiled officials (politicians or CEOs), they are secretive too and send false signals (â€Read my lips; I will never resignâ€). In both cases, the event derivative traders donâ€™t have any access to inside information, the only one that counts. So these two types of prediction markets are of inferior quality, which explains why experienced traders donâ€™t speculate on them. [...]</p></blockquote>
<p>And <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/08/14/jed-christiansen-strongly-believes-that-chris-masse-has-a-bad-understanding-of-probabilities/" title="Jed Christiansen strongly believes that Chris Masse has a bad understanding of probabilities.">I provoked a <em>polÃ©mique</em></a>, once again. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>InTrade-TradeSports:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.intrade.com/aav2/trading/tradingHTML.jsp?evID=68266&amp;eventSelect=68266&amp;updateList=true&amp;showExpired=false" title="InTrade-TradeSports">Alberto Gonzales to announce his resignation on/before 30th September 2007</a></p>
<p><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/gonzales-sept2007.png" alt="US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigns. Sept 2007" /></p>
<p>Alberto Gonzales to announce his resignation on/before 31st December 2007</p>
<p><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/gonzales-dec2007.png" alt="US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigns. Dec 2007" /></p>
<p>Alberto Gonzales to announce his resignation on/before 31th Mar 2008</p>
<p><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/gonzales-march2008.png" alt="US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigns. March 2008" /></p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>NewsFutures:</strong></p>
<p>Alberto Gonzales won&#8217;t remain Attorney General through the rest of Bush&#8217;s presidency.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.us.newsfutures.com/market/market.html?symbol=AG**GOES" title="Alberto Gonzales won't remain Attorney General through the rest of Bush's presidency"><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/ag-goes-1.gif" alt="US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigns. November 2008" /></a></p>
<p>[This one, with a November 2008 deadline, was indeed predictive.]</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Reminder:</p>
<p>Karl Rove will resign from the White House.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.us.newsfutures.com/market/market.html?symbol=ROVEFIRD" title="Karl Rove will resign from the White House"><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/rovefird-3.gif" alt="Karl Rove resignation - NewsFutures" /></a></p>
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		<title>Does this prediction market chart look predictive to you?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karl Rove will resign from the White House. Emile Servan-Schreiber: Chris, how exactly do you define â€œpredictiveâ€? If your criterion is â€œlast trading price above 50%â€, that would betray a very limited understanding of the nature of both probability and &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/08/13/does-this-prediction-market-chart-look-predictive-to-you/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl Rove will resign from the White House.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.us.newsfutures.com/market/market.html?symbol=ROVEFIRD" title="Karl Rove will resign from the White House"><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/rovefird-3.gif" alt="Karl Rove resignation - NewsFutures" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/08/13/karl-rove-resigns-abruptly/#comment-16061" title="His comment">Emile Servan-Schreiber</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Chris, how exactly do you define â€œpredictiveâ€?</strong> If your criterion is â€œlast trading price above 50%â€, that would betray a very limited understanding of the nature of both probability and binary markets. Thatâ€™s a debate you and I have had ever since the first days of chrisfmasse.com a propos the 2004 US presidential election.</p>
<p>To your credit, I donâ€™t think anyone has yet proposed a good way of assessing the â€œpredictivenessâ€ (predictivity?) of a <strong>single</strong> binary market after the fact. It is a very difficult question. Does anyone here have an answer?</p></blockquote>
<p>#1. What I see on the NewsFutures chart above is that the probability of Karl Rove resigning went to about 20% previous to the official announcement in the WSJ, indicating that it was more likely than not that he&#8217;d stay at the White House. So, in terms of absolute accuracy, that particular prediction market failed.</p>
<p>#2. Emile-Servan-Schreiber is right that, scientifically, we should assess <em>a series of</em> identical prediction markets, not just one, if we want to determine whether this market-based technology has merit. (And we should assess them comparatively to competitive institutions&#8217; predictions.) Overall, the NewsFutures prediction exchange  is indeed predictive.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/07/06/the-2014-winter-games-goes-to-a-russian-black-sea-resort-sochi/" title="The 2014 Winter Games goes toâ€¦ a Russian Black Sea resort, Sochi.">Just like</a> the <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/04/18/2016-summer-olympics-in-chicago-prediction-markets-anyone/" title="2016 Summer Olympics in Chicago: Prediction Markets, anyone??">Olympic City prediction markets</a>, the resignation prediction markets <a href="http://www.chrisfmasse.com/" title="Debunking John Delaney â€” Can prediction markets foretell resignations?">are rarely predictive</a> because <em>there aren&#8217;t any reliable advanced indicators</em> to guide the traders. </strong>The Olympic committee is secretive and does not grant on merit but on politics (or corruption). As for the embroiled officials (politicians or CEOs), they are secretive too and send false signals (&#8220;Read my lips; I will never resign&#8221;). In both cases, the event derivative traders don&#8217;t have any access to inside information, the only one that counts. So these two types of prediction markets are of inferior quality, which explains why experienced traders don&#8217;t speculate on them. To have a better understanding of the prediction markets, in addition to the very good argument that EJSS makes, I think <strong>we should <em>rate</em> the advanced indicators.</strong> When they are of poor quality, we should disclose it to our readers and traders.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><em>NEXT</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/08/14/jed-christiansen-strongly-believes-that-chris-masse-has-a-bad-understanding-of-probabilities/" title="The NewsFutures prediction on Karl Rove happened to be wrong.">Jed Christiansen strongly believes that Chris Masse has a bad understanding of probabilities.</a></p>
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