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		<title>The banks have hijacked the government. &#8212; [VIDEO]</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Nassim Taleb on deficits &#8211; [VIDEO]</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<title>Robin Hanson sends Nassim Nicholas Taleb back in the locker room, and John Delaney does the same with Jason Ruspini.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/white-swans-p-1.html?cid=132023496#comment-132023496"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9837" title="ruspini-taleb" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ruspini-taleb.jpg" alt="" width="465" height="766" /></a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>WORLD&#8217;S #1 PREDICTION MARKET GURU SAYS THAT NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB&#8217;S SLAM AT THE PREDICTION MARKETS IS UNSCIENTIFIC.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<title>NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Prediction markets are for fools. They might work for a binary election, but not in the Fourth Quadrant.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>QUESTION TO THE READERS: Could anyone guess what Nassim Nicholas Taleb would think of the prediction markets?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fortune: The idea that catastrophe can strike without warning does not seem particularly hard to understand. Why doesn&#8217;t Wall Street ever seem to allow for that possibility? And why doesn&#8217;t it learn from past catastrophes? Let me blame business schools &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/03/nassim-nicholas-taleb-prediction-markets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/31/news/economy/gelman_taleb.fortune/index.htm?section=magazines_fortune" title="Risk guru Nassim Taleb talks about why Wall Street fails to anticipate disaster.">Fortune</a>:</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><strong>The idea that catastrophe can strike without warning does not seem particularly hard to understand. Why doesn&#8217;t Wall Street ever seem to allow for that possibility? And why doesn&#8217;t it learn from past catastrophes?</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Let me blame business schools and the financial economics establishment</strong> &#8211; they have a vested interest in promoting models and devaluing common sense.</p>
<p>I worked on Wall Street for close to two decades in trading and risk management of derivatives. I noticed that while portfolio models got worse and worse in tracking reality, their use kept increasing as if nothing was happening. Why? Because in the past 15 years <strong>business schools</strong> accelerated their teaching of portfolio theory as a replacement for our experiences. <strong>It looks like science, and they have been brainwashing more than 100,000 students a year. </strong>There is no way my experiences can be transmitted to the next generation because of these schools. We&#8217;ve had <strong>fiascoes</strong> in finance that they need to neglect because they contradict their models. <strong>The problem may also be the Nobel in economics that <em>gave a stamp to these junky theories</em>. Someone needs to make the Nobel committee account for this, for the damage to society</strong> &#8211; and I hope to do so.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Strongly anti-establishment guy. (<a href="http://www.felixsalmon.com/000802.html" title="Lunch with Nassim Nicholas Taleb">More here, last year, with Felix Salmon</a>.)</p>
<p>Could anyone guess what Nassim Nicholas Taleb would think of the prediction markets? Would he think that our prediction market researchers (Robin Hanson, Justin Wolfers, and company) are &#8220;giving stamp to junky theories&#8221;, hence &#8220;damaging society&#8221;?</p>
<p>Anyone (who knows NNT) willing to guess???&#8230;</p>
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<p>UPDATE: Jason Ruspini&#8230;</p>
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<blockquote><p>The basic answer is obvious &#8211; <strong>Taleb considers predicting as such to be nonsense</strong>, although the papers in this area by Wolfers et al only need appeal to information aggregation.</p>
<p>I do think <strong>Taleb would be very skeptical of the model-based papers on manipulation. </strong>While he and Robin Hanson seem to have some similar interests, this might be a difference. Consider Taleb&#8217;s &#8220;Fat Tony&#8221; and &#8220;Dr John&#8221; characters from The Black Swan. Fat Tony is more intuitive and &#8220;street-smart&#8221;. Dr John is more &#8220;platonic&#8221;, nerdy, and more apt to make mistakes because of a bad model or assumptions. The characters are each posed the following question: &#8220;Say I flip a fair coin ten times and it comes up heads all ten times. What are the chances of it coming up heads on the next flip?&#8221; Dr John replies, &#8220;Elementary. They are independent events, so 50%.&#8221;Â  Fat Tony says, &#8220;Less than 10% because the coin is probably loaded. Your assumptions are wrong or you are lying!&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>The model-based papers on manipulation assume equal trading budgets and no feedback trading. These assumptions rarely hold.</strong></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Nassim Nicholas Taleb likens modern-day financial markets to medicine in the 1800s, when going to a hospital in London or Paris multiplied your risk of death by four times, he says. Similarly, quants increase risk by deploying flawed financial tools designed to reduce it, he argues.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Via Stan Jonas, Nassim Nicholas Taleb cited in a Bloomberg article (Taleb Outsells Greenspan as Black Swan Gives Worst Turbulence): Stress tests are inherently risky because they ignore rare but potentially devastating events. [...] .. ["stress test" = Wall Street &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/27/the-black-swan/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via Stan Jonas, <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&amp;sid=aHfkhe8.C._8&amp;refer=home" title="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&amp;sid=aHfkhe8.C._8&amp;refer=home"><strong>Nassim Nicholas Taleb</strong> cited in a Bloomberg article (<em>Taleb Outsells Greenspan as Black Swan Gives Worst Turbulence</em>)</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p><strong>Stress tests are inherently risky because they ignore rare but potentially devastating events. </strong>[...] .. ["stress test" = Wall Street lingo for examining how a market rout will play out]</p>
<p><strong>Past shortfall doesn&#8217;t predict future shortfall. </strong>[...]</p>
<p><strong>Bayesian is necessary but not sufficient.</strong> [...]</p>
<p><strong>If you are in banking and lending, surprise outcomes are likely to be negative for you. Put yourself in situations where favorable consequences are much larger than unfavorable ones. </strong>[...]</p>
<p>Go to parties! If you&#8217;re a scientist, you will chance upon a remark that might spark new research. [...]</p></blockquote>
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<p>Also, see Stan Jonas&#8217; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.net/2008/03/26/fed/">2 takes</a> on <a href="http://www.midasoracle.net/2008/03/27/implied-probabilities/">FOMC</a>.</p>
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