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		<title>VIDEO &#8212; BetFair&#8217;s Mark Davies croaks like a frog.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- To watch Mark Davies speaking French: Internet Explorer &#8212;no FireFox. Latest Flash. Go to M6 Replay. Select &#8220;magazines&#8221;. Scroll on the right to go to &#8220;Enquete Exclusive&#8221;. Select Sunday, May 1, 2008 &#8212; Paris sportifs: Quand la Mafia s&#8217;en &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/06/02/mark-davies-betfair/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><strong> To watch Mark Davies speaking French:</strong></p>
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<li>Internet Explorer &#8212;no FireFox.</li>
<li>Latest Flash.</li>
<li>Go to <strong><a href="http://m6replay.fr/">M6 Replay</a>.</strong></li>
<li>Select &#8220;magazines&#8221;.</li>
<li>Scroll on the right to go to &#8220;Enquete Exclusive&#8221;.</li>
<li>Select Sunday, May 1, 2008 &#8212; <em>Paris sportifs: Quand la Mafia s&#8217;en mele</em>&#8230;</li>
<li>Windows Media.</li>
<li><strong>9:00</strong> into, they talk about <strong>Davydenko.</strong></li>
<li><strong>11:00</strong> into, they show the <strong>BetFair HQ.</strong></li>
<li><strong>Mark Davies</strong> is introduced as &#8220;the #2&#8243;. And, later on, they mis-translate &#8220;Managing Director&#8221; into &#8220;Directeur General&#8221;, which means &#8220;CEO&#8221; in French. Let&#8217;s hope David Yu won&#8217;t watch that tape. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li>His French is not superb&#8230; but quite close to. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
<li>Explains that, in the Davydenko match, it was <em>the bets that lead the game</em> &#8212;not the other way around. So, BetFair voided all bets.</li>
<li><strong>I am realizing that the phrase &#8220;the prices of the bets&#8221; (&#8220;<em>les prix des paris</em>&#8220;) is not usable. Better to talk about probabilities to the public.</strong></li>
<li>The rest of that news report is devoted to demonstrating, thru innuendos, rumors, unfounded pseudo facts, and mis-reported true facts, that the Mafia is in control of <strong>all</strong> world sports &#8212;thru world-wide betting.</li>
<li>At the very end, though, one official (from the tennis federation, the ATP, if my memory is correct) says that they cooperate with some betting operators to stop corruption.</li>
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<p><a href="http://www.m6.fr/guide-tv/enquete-exclusive/paris-sportifs-quand-la-mafia-s-en-mele-jsp.html?id=gdp2_626984&amp;archive=true">M6 &#8211; Enquete Exclusive &#8211; Sunday, June 1, 2008 &#8212; <strong>Paris sportifs: Quand la Mafia s&#8217;en mele</strong></a><strong>&#8230;</strong> &#8211;<strong> [Sports bets: When the Mafia gets involved...]</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://jeanmarcmorandini.tele7.fr/article-15801.html">1.6 million French people watched that TV show</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://jeanmarcmorandini.tele7.fr/article-15801.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-7136" title="m6" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/m6.jpg" alt="" /></a></p>
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		<title>If the British legal betting companies offer bets on the sport, it is because there is demand for bets on the sport &#8212;and if that demand were not offered in a regulated environment, it would be filled in an unregulated one (like what we see with TradeSports-InTrade and MatchBook in the US market).</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Davies of BetFair (PDF file): International Leaders in Sport conference, Auckland, New Zealand. April 3-4th 2008. Keynote speech, April 4th. Mark Davies, Betfair. &#8220;New Understandings in Sports Betting&#8221; Minister, ladies and gentlemen&#8230; Thank you very much for your kind &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/28/betfair-sports-betting/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Davies of <a href="http://www.betfaircorporate.com/">BetFair</a> (<a href="http://www.betfaircorporate.com/pdf/pr040408.pdf">PDF file</a>):</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">International Leaders in Sport conference, Auckland, New Zealand. April 3-4th 2008.<br />
Keynote speech, April 4th. Mark Davies, Betfair.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;"><strong>&#8220;New Understandings in Sports Betting&#8221;</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Minister, ladies and gentlemen&#8230; Thank you very much for your kind invitation to speak to you today. I have once before been asked by sport to address it, as a member of the bookmaking industry, and it was apparent when I got there that they expected me to tell them that sport was their business, and making money out of it was ours. I can tell you that those who spoke to me afterwards said that they left the conference surprised to hear that a bookmaking operation could hold views so different from what they expected. I hope to be able to break down a few perceptions today.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">A number of perceptions have grown in recent years in relation to betting and sport which I believe are completely false and misleading, the first of which is that sport suddenly has a new problem as a result of sports betting on the internet.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Betfair is at the forefront of this debate for one very good reason. When we launched the business back in 2000, we did so under the bold slogan &#8220;revolutionizing betting&#8221;. By that, we meant not just that we planned to revolutionise the experience for the customer, by allowing him better choice, better value, and &#8211; for the first time &#8211; control over what he did; but, crucially, that we were going to transform the way that betting worked with regulators, both in the sport and government sphere.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The basis of our model was the business that the founding team had come from, in the main, which was the business of finance. <strong>I used to trade bonds at JPMorgan, and I can tell you that what our customers do is exactly the same as what I used to do in my previous life, with the single exception that where I had to pore over balance sheets and income statements, they pore over form and team-sheets.</strong> It could be argued &#8211; indeed, it has been &#8211; that they will therefore know a great deal more about the underlying mechanics of their markets than I ever knew of mine; but the principles are exactly the same. <strong>You express a view of value about a given outcome or a given currently-traded market price about an outcome.</strong> The extent to which this is true was really brought home to me when I was asked to speak at the Swiss Futures and Options Association&#8217;s annual gathering at Birkenstock &#8211; you can see I get all the good gigs &#8211; which was attended by <strong>all the leading exchanges of the world:</strong> The Chicago Board of Trade; the Swedish stock exchange, whose platform powers another eleven stock exchanges worldwide, the London Clearing House and representatives of the LSE, Nasdaq, and many more. My presence there was an irritation to many: what place had a sports betting exchange at such an event, people wanted to know. But by the end, they were so ready to accept that what happens in the sports betting world and what happens in their world is actually identical that they wanted to know why we weren&#8217;t taxed on the same basis.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">So we came to the sports betting market saying this: why is it so opaque? And by that, we didn&#8217;t mean just, &#8220;why is it not clear what the customer is charged?&#8221; but &#8220;why doesn&#8217;t anyone know who is betting? The City had gone through the Big Bang in 1987: the sports betting market was continuing to exist as it had done for most of its legal history: with the power in the hands of a few, and everyone else ignorant of what was going on.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">We sought to change that, and at first, people welcomed it. But the more successful we became as a company, the more people &#8211; led to a large extent by our commercial competitors &#8211; started to change their tune, for a very simple reason: that with transparency came issues which people had never been able to see clearly, and so had always wanted to believe didn&#8217;t really exist.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Before I go on, I want to give you a couple of analogies.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The first is perhaps a little high-brow. In his philosophical work Being and Nothingness, <strong>the French author Jean-Paul Sartre</strong> debates whether anything actually happens if we aren&#8217;t there to see it. The example he gives is of a tree falling in a forest. How can we know, he says, that the tree actually fell, unless we saw it happen? Just by virtue of seeing it lying down rather than standing up, he says, we assume it has fallen over. It is an absurdist argument which exists to enable philosophical theorising; but everyone would accept that in reality, you don&#8217;t need to witness something to be able to acknowledge that it has happened.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The second analogy is rather closer to home. As I understand it, the speed limit in this country is 100km/h. I would imagine that it was long-suspected that people broke this limit, particularly on the main highway. People observing cars drive past would have had a perception of this, but no evidence for it. Then, one day, someone came up with the idea of a speed camera, and a number were installed. The following week, a number of cars would have been recorded as speeding. Would anyone seriously suggest that what caused the cars to speed was the camera? It is self-evident that the camera did nothing but produce the proof of an existing fact.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The reason for these analogies is this: in recent years, there has been a growing clamour from the media and from sport that <strong>there is more corruption today than there ever was, <em>and the cause of it is betting</em>.</strong> In same cases, they even claim that the cause of it is <a href="http://betfair.com/">Betfair,</a> on the grounds that you will find very few <strong>corruption</strong> stories in the last seven years that do not mention Betfair, which has led some to argue that <strong>if the words &#8216;Betfair&#8217; and &#8216;corruption&#8217; appear in the same paragraph, that must somehow be evidence of the fact that Betfair is the cause, and corruption the effect.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Betfair takes a very different view. Our view is that <strong>we are the speed camera</strong>, showing you something that you never knew was there. We are shining a light into the darkness, and people give us a hard time for having a torch.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Why do we think that? Because the level of transparency which Betfair has brought to the sports industry is unprecedented. <strong>Every single bet placed on Betfair is recorded, to the second.</strong> Every click of your mouse; every movement of funds in and out of your account &#8211; we know where it has come from, and we know where it is going. As I mentioned, we brought financial markets best practice to the sports betting market. We came into a world that was entirely opaque, and made it entirely transparent. If there was anything hiding in the murk, it can now be seen.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">An interesting example of this came in August last year, when a match <strong>at the Poland Open in Sopot between Nikolai Davydenko and Martin Arguello-Vasallo</strong> raised eyebrows, when Arguello won by default after Davydenko withdrew while leading. You cannot fail to have read about this: not an article about tennis and the ATP now appears without mentioning it. It was all over the press not just for days, but for weeks; and it continues to be brought up, as the ATP&#8217;s investigation into what happens continues.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Now, there are a number of things to note about this incident. The first is how it came to light. As I mentioned, we are fully aware of all the betting details on Betfair; but what I didn&#8217;t mention is that everyone looking at the site can see bets betting placed, and can see the prices moving in a free market. <strong>The 40 or 50,000 pairs of our customers&#8217; eyes that we have on our markets at any one time can all see exactly what is happening to the odds. <em>And our forum allows sports punters to discuss what they can see</em>.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Davydenko&#8217;s lawyer criticised Betfair for having sought publicity from the incident but the reality is that <strong>we were called by the media, not the other way around; </strong>and the reason for that was that what was happening was in the public domain. Everyone on our site could see that the World Number 4 had started at $1.20 and moved out by the end of the first set to $2.28, even though he won it with no apparent difficulty, and was paying $3.75 after losing the opening game of the second set on his serve. And well before he actually pulled out through injury, hundreds of people on our forum were speculating that he must be about to pull out.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">I cast no aspersions here: <strong>it is entirely possible that the player was carrying an injury and some group of people were aware of the fact. </strong>There is no consistent rule across sports, as things stand, against <strong>insider trading</strong>- the rights and wrongs of which can be debated later perhaps, but it might be worth me mentioning as an aside that we don&#8217;t make the rules; we just help to enforce them once they have been made. <strong>So I am not suggesting that the match was corrupt. We, as a company, made a decision to void the bets on it, because we felt that the betting itself was not fair. It was clear to us that the betting was leading events, and not the other way around. </strong>But I would also mention here that another fallacy of this position was that it served us to do so. A number of people commented at the time that it is all very easy for a bookie to void bets when a result is going against him. But this misunderstands the whole business proposition we have: we are set up like a stock exchange, matching up supply and demand, and taking a cut in the middle. This means that <strong>we have no exposure to the result</strong>, or, to put it another way, we don&#8217;t care who wins. We make money if the event happens, regardless of the outcome, and we make no money if the event is voided. It is also worth mentioning, as an aside, that while many were crying foul about the movement in prices, we also, of course, had full access to the information as to who was betting. <strong>The complete audit trail created by our systems and our Know Your Customer checks mean that we know exactly who was behind the bets.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;"><strong>So, we voided the market, at a cost to us.</strong> But what happened next is perhaps the most striking of all. <strong>One after another, big players around the world came out and said that they had been approached to throw matches. One after the other, they said that they knew of players who had, or had themselves, been offered money by people who wanted them to rig the result. In several instances, these offers were made <em>before the advent of internet-based sports betting</em>.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Now, for me, the big question is, Why did it take a company that stands for transparency to make a stand before anyone mentioned that there was a problem? If we had not voided the bets on the match, would tennis be better or worse off? Is it helpful to know if you have a problem, or would you rather remain ignorant of it until it kills you?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The answer, with some in sport, would appear to be the latter. One sporting body, unconnected with this case, which we approached with a view to signing an information-sharing agreement, actually told us directly that they didn&#8217;t want information because they were frightened about the level of corruption it would reveal. Time and again, since the Poland Open, we have been told (although not by the ATP, I should add, who were among the first to embrace the information-sharing agreements we have pioneered) that we are causing sport a problem that didn&#8217;t previously exist. And yet, the evidence is there for all to see: we made our stand after people had been approached. Once we made our stand, people started to come out and talk about things. And yet a sizeable number of people want to return to where we were before we blew the whistle.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The reality of this point of view is that it is childish. <strong>Corruption is something that no-one here wants to see</strong>, and every one of us wishes didn&#8217;t exist. But it does exist. And, we cannot, like children confronted by a monster, hope that if we close our eyes, the monster will disappear. Even less can we credibly say that all the time we were sitting with our eyes shut, the monster that stood before us wasn&#8217;t there, and that it was only the person that told us to open our eyes that put it there.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;"><strong>The nature of sport is that it produces clear-cut results, and where there are clear-cut results, there is money to be made speculating on the outcome.</strong> This, again, is a basic truth. You may not like the fact that for some people, this is the sport; and I accept that for many, in a perfect world we would simply have no betting at all. Some sports bodies still struggle to accept just how great the demand for betting is. For example, I went to talk to the IOC about betting about eighteen months ago, and they, in line with many others I have met (to be fair to them) were totally incredulous that anyone would want to bet on who would win the 100metres in Beijing. Again, I accept that this is not the Olympic ideal, but it is a fact that they do, and rather than close our eyes to the fact, we should work with it. Because the reality, strange as it may seem, is that for many people, having a bet on the 100metres final retains their interest. If that hundred metres final comprises six Americans, a Jamaican and a Cuban, there will be plenty of people won&#8217;t give a monkey&#8217;s who wins it, unless they have had a bet to make them feel involved.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Again, I accept that this is not what sports bodies might want in a perfect world. But we don&#8217;t live in a perfect world. And if you want to live in the real world, <strong>you have to accept that there are plenty of people with strong opinions who want to express them through a bet. </strong>Plenty of people don&#8217;t accept this. Just this week, the coach of the Brisbane Lions AFL team, Leigh Matthews, showed that he is among those who don&#8217;t. Described as &#8220;certainly neither a wowser nor a saint, and having no intention of ever becoming either&#8221;, Matthews is a four-time premiership coach and was named Player of the 20th Century. He told a press conference just a few days ago that the Australian Football League should sever all ties with the bookmaking industry. Let me quote him: &#8220;The one thing that really annoys me is any thought that whatever we do as a game has something to do with people betting on it. I hate that,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I would prefer that nobody bet on the AFL. Then all innuendo would not exist. It&#8217;s one of the unfortunate progressions in the evolution of the world that betting agencies now bet on everything. I think that&#8217;s really unhealthy, really unsavoury and really unfortunate.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">As I say, I can understand this view in the ideal: he would rather no-one bet on the sport. But what I do not accept is that betting companies offering bets on the sport is what makes people bet on it. <strong>If the legal betting companies offer bets on the sport, it is because there is demand for bets on the sport &#8211; and if that demand were not offered in a regulated environment, it would be filled in an unregulated one.</strong> So while I do not argue with Matthews&#8217; picture of the ideal, I struggle with the argument that he follows it up with. Again, let me quote him directly: &#8220;I think [the AFL] should say to the betting companies `you want to bet on the footy, fine, but don&#8217;t include us. Don&#8217;t ask us to have rules and regulations that pander to people who might want to bet on a game.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">For me, this view is absurd. It is essential that there are rules in place, and essential that there is a mechanism for those rules to be upheld. The AFL&#8217;s own experience of having named information of who is betting on its sport has been that it has been able to help players with addictions, and drive out a problem which could, unchecked, lead to corruption. Having no rules or no means of enforcing them is precisely what leads to problems &#8211; not just here but in any walk of life. And yet Matthews&#8217; criticism was taken up by the press. They argue that when people were caught breaking the AFL&#8217;s rules preventing players betting as a direct result of the agreement the AFL signed, the sport was shown in a poor light. <strong>It wasn&#8217;t the fact that rules were being broken that was troubling, but the fact that it had become apparent.</strong> It should, wrote one commentator, be all about perception, rather than reality. In other words, it would be better to <strong>sweep things under the carpet.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">I think, in contrast, that we should accept that <strong>the demand of people to be able to bet on a clear-cut result is a fundamental reality, and in itself is not a problem.</strong> The trouble is that where there is money to be made, there are also people who would seek to corrupt. Sadly, this, too, is a basic reality of the world we live in. So we must protect against corruption, which means having rules and regulations in place, and a proper means of policing them.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The idea that corruption must be rooted out is uncontentious. The question is simply how we do it. In my view, agreement on this is hindered because many people think that betting causes corruption. But <strong>betting in itself is not corrupt. Corrupt betting is corrupt, but corrupt betting is not really betting at all, by definition: <em>it is merely getting guaranteed financial reward through securing a fixed outcome, which isn&#8217;t the same as backing your analysis of a given contest and speculating on the chances of a particular outcome at all</em>. </strong>In other words, the key part of the phrase &#8216;corrupt betting&#8217; is not the betting part, but the adjective that precedes it: or to put it another way, corruption is corruption, through whatever channel it happens to manifest itself.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">This is an important point, because the first thing that must be done if the battle against corruption is to be won is to work out who is on whose side here, and what tools we have to fight with. At the moment, the perception exists in sport that betting is the cause, rather than on occasions (and by no means on all occasions) a facilitator, and the inevitable next step in sport&#8217;s logic is to blame the betting companies for their problems. And this means that we have a fundamental issue, because the betting companies &#8211; by which I mean the legal, regulated, and co-operative betting companies &#8211; are actually a tool in the fight.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">You can accept that betting for betting&#8217;s sake is not in itself the problem, and that 99% of people who make money out of the sporting result, through betting on it, would never consider affecting that result to suit. But that still leaves us with an issue: using the money being generated by that 99% of people to make money out of a corruptly fixed result clearly is a problem. But here we must consider what added ingredient is needed to allow someone to do that &#8211; to turn betting from a pastime into a facilitator for corruption. Put simply, &#8220;How do you corrupt?&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">If you or I decide we want to rig the outcome of a horserace, or a rugby match, or any other sporting event, it isn&#8217;t immediately apparent how we would do it sitting here. We can very easily have a bet right here, and right now, on almost any sporting event taking place in the world at the moment; but what we can&#8217;t do, sitting here, by ourselves, is affect the outcome. For that, we need the collaboration of the people involved.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Now, there&#8217;s a story about Winston Churchill which goes something like this. <strong>Winston Churchill</strong>, apparently a few the worse for wear &#8211; as was his wont &#8211; allegedly once approached a lady and asked her if she would be prepared to sleep with him for Â£1million. She thought about it for a moment, and said she would. He then asked her if she would be prepared to sleep with him for a tenner, and she was horrified. &#8220;What do you think I am?&#8221; she exclaimed. &#8220;Madam,&#8221; he replied, &#8220;we have established what you are. We are now just negotiating the price.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">As was true of Winston and his target, so is true of sportsmen and corruptors. When I talk to people about corruption in sport, and protest at the idea that internet betting in particular has increased corruption just because the sums of money involved are that much greater, I think of that story about Winston Churchill. Because as far as I am concerned, either you can be corrupted, or you can&#8217;t. If you can&#8217;t bribe a sportsman or a group of sportsmen to rig a result, then you can&#8217;t get a result fixed. And what that means is that the heart of the problem in the issue of corruption in sport is not betting, but is sportsmen willing to be bought.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">I realise that pointing the finger at sport, from what appears to be the betting side of the fence, might seem somewhat inflammatory. But the most important point I want to make is that when we consider whose side of the fence is whose, we are currently getting it absolutely wrong. <strong>The betting industry doesn&#8217;t want bad apples as customers any more than the sports industry wants bad apples participating; and just as more than 99% of your participants are clean, so are more than 99% of ours. Our less than 1% can do the buying; your less than 1% can deliver the goods. The challenge for us both is to rid ourselves of the 1%, and the best way to do that is to work together.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Put another way, the simple fact of the matter is this: if we are to draw a line &#8211; not to say dig a bloody great big trench &#8211; between sport and corruption, as obviously we must, then the first and most important thing is to understand that the legal betting industry is on the same side of that line as the sports industry. And I say this not just because it serves our purpose for sport to be clean, although it does: if people don&#8217;t have confidence in the fairness of the result, they will not bet. I say it because we were set up as a business philosophically because we are lovers of sport. And, having set up something which was designed, in part, to <strong>bring complete transparency to the market</strong>; and then having set out our stall to share information with sports to help them deal with problems that exist, it has been extremely frustrating to find ourselves attacked as if we are the cause of the problems. <strong>If ever there was a case of shooting the messenger, this is it.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">In fact, the finger pointing from sport to betting, and to Betfair in particular, has been so great that there are calls around the world for betting to pay sport, because sport now has to deal with integrity issues which betting has caused. Let me say straight up that <strong>Betfair has never been against paying sport on the basis of a commercial agreement which recognises that sport is putting on a show and Betfair is benefitting from that.</strong> This is not the same as saying that sport &#8216;owns&#8217; the product, but it simply recognises that there ought to be a symbiotic relationship between the two industries. And we are not suddenly coming to this party under pressure: I spoke at the Sport Accord conference in Madrid <strong>in 2003</strong> and told the 80 or so delegates there from sports bodies all round the world that the two things they should expect from a bookmaker in the 21st century were information about what betting was taking place on their matches, to allow them to police their sport better; and a financial contribution to acknowledge that they were putting on the show. But I do have a fundamental problem with betting being asked to pay to &#8216;clean up&#8217; something that exists whether they are there are not. <strong>The integrity of sport is the domain of sport, whether Betfair, or Ladbrokes, or any other betting company in the world exists or not.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">In fact, I would go further than that. Imagine a world where bookmaking is illegal. Take Betfair, and Ladbrokes, and William Hill, and everyone else you care to mention, and close them all down. What happens to sport&#8217;s problem then? Does it go away, stay the same, or get bigger? Clearly, it gets bigger &#8211; and if you doubt that, let me give you two reasons why.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The first is best exemplified by Hansie Cronje. No-one in New Zealand will be unaware of the scandals that affected the world of cricket in the late 1990s &#8211; an era, incidentally, which preceded internet betting, and in which cricket was not alone in experiencing problems: floodlights went off in top-flight UK football matches for reasons which at first were not apparent. Talk to the ICC about those times in cricket and they will readily acknowledge that their problems came from the Indian sub-continent, where &#8211; no surprises &#8211; bookmaking is illegal. And the source of floodlight failures, too, was eventually traced to Far Eastern illegal betting syndicates, but only because someone was eventually caught red-handed with his hands more or less on the switch.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The second reason is this: <strong>tell me why betting was legalised and regulated in the first place, if it wasn&#8217;t that it existed illegally and unregulated, and if, being illegal and unregulated, it was not seen to be causing problems which could not be dealt with? The whole basis of regulation is that regulating makes it more difficult to corrupt.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Betfair took the level of regulation a significant step further. I have already talked about our audit trail, but what I didn&#8217;t mention was that <strong>any sports regulatory body in the world can have the information gathered by that audit trail from us, free of charge.</strong> In fact, we can deliver it, via our <strong>Bet Monitor</strong> technology, in real time &#8211; as Stewards not so very far away in Victoria will tell you. In other words, we are providing, without any obligation, information which would otherwise be unknown about betting that is taking place all over the world &#8211; information which makes it easier to know what is happening, not harder. And it seems to me that asking the legal, regulated betting market to pay to clean up problems of integrity in sport is like approaching a High Street pharmacy and asking it to pay for the fight against cocaine-smuggling on the grounds that their business is in drugs. The difference between the legal, regulated market and the illegal market is the difference between chalk and cheese. And asking Betfair, or any other well-regulated, well-run global brand, to pay for problems which are seen to originate in the murky world of unregulated, illegal, bookmaking seems to me to be entirely missing the point.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">To illustrate my point a little further, here&#8217;s the page from Wikipedia on match-fixing. You will see if you look at it more closely that it claims that <strong>cheating on sport started with the Ancient Olympics, and with battles between gladiators.</strong> When I once mentioned this on a radio interview, I was taken to task over it by <strong>a journalist from a British national newspaper, the Guardian, who accused me of being disingenuous. The amount of match-fixing today, he said, was of a completely different proportion, and the sums of money involved were much greater.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Even aside from my story about Winston Churchill, I would take issue with that. First of all, on what empirical grounds can anyone justifiably claim that there is more match-fixing today than there was before? Isn&#8217;t the perception that there is simply born of the fact that we can see it better today than we could a decade ago? Are there more diseases these days, or do we just diagnose them better?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">To go back to my earlier analogy, are there more speeding cars, or are we now in a position to clock them? Did people start taking drugs to improve their sporting performances the week after drugs testing came in, or were they taking them before we had tests, and just doing so undetected? Was Jacques Rogge, the President of the IOC, justified when he commented during the Athens Olympic that, &#8220;Each positive test is a blessing for us because it&#8217;s eliminating the cheats and protecting the clean athletes. The more we find, the better.&#8221; I would say absolutely he was.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">In truth, the basic fact is that it is simply not possible to make any judgment whatsoever on what the level of corruption in sport was before we had a means of tracking it, just as it is impossible to know how many athletes in the past used performance-enhancers to bring them medals. We might think that in a bye-gone era, the world was a nobler place; and on the whole, we might be right. But if the Chicago White Sox were throwing the World Series in 1919, and Liverpool and Manchester United were colluding over a result in 1915 &#8211; on that occasion, not for a betting return, incidentally, but to ensure survival in the top division at the expense of Chelsea, who consequently went down &#8211; and if these are scandals we happen to know about because someone happened to sing about them, then how can we possibly make a judgment about the bigger picture?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">The challenge now is to take the attitude that Jacques Rogge has to drugs testing and apply it to betting, not being fearful of instances we find to occur, but to be confident that transparency is rooting out the corruption and tipping the risk/reward ratio dramatically in favour of the regulator and away from the corruptor. For that, we first need to draw on another of <strong>Mr. Rogge&#8217;s pronouncements in Greece. &#8220;You have 10,500 athletes in the Olympic village,&#8221; he told the world&#8217;s press. &#8220;You do not have 10,500 saints. You will always have cheats.&#8221;</strong> We have to acknowledge that the only people who can corrupt sport are the players, and we have to educate those players about how they will be caught and how they will lose their livelihoods and their reputations when they are. And to do that, we first need to educate sport about how they can do the catching: the only way to know whether players are corrupted is to have the names of the people behind the bets, and then use forensic analysis to make the often easy links between the bettors and the participants. Any attempts to look at the betting quantum and make judgments on it are absolutely doomed to failure, and the only people who will gain anything from doing so are the media. So sport needs to put itself in a position where it has access to named information, wherever it can get it. If it is not doing that, it is not using the tools available. I find it amazing that any sporting body would turn down named information from a betting operator willing to provide it with no strings attached, and yet, from the top down, there are plenty who do.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Don&#8217;t get me wrong. I am not trying to suggest that sport is riddled with corruption. I am an optimist, and I hope and expect, like everyone here, that <strong>99.9% of sport is played for the Corinthian ideal of winning.</strong> But it is clear that sports &#8211; perhaps because they are being told so by the media &#8211; now feel that they have a problem which they feel they didn&#8217;t have before. The immediate reaction is to point the finger, rather than take steps to do something to tighten regulation in a manner which perhaps should have happened years ago, and it is not difficult to see why this has happened. It is easy enough to make what appears at first a logical jump: betting has increased; corruption has become apparent; therefore betting is causing corruption. It&#8217;s like saying, &#8220;it&#8217;s raining, and I don&#8217;t have an umbrella, therefore I will inevitably get wet&#8221;.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">But what if it&#8217;s pointed out that there is no reason for you to go outside? Suddenly, the argument falls apart. And what if you understand that the increase in betting has moved in parallel with the increase in transparency? Suddenly, the logic doesn&#8217;t hold there either. But that growth in transparency of betting has led people to believe that there has been a growth of corruption, and the result is that sport is setting itself against the very people it should be working with. Again, I can understand how this is happening. Many in sports regulation genuinely don&#8217;t see that this problem is not new, like a patient diagnosed with cancer who insists that he felt fine yesterday and still feels fine today. But understanding why we are where we are doesn&#8217;t mean we should continue to plough the same furrow. We have to get out of it before we dig it so deep that we&#8217;ll never be able to do so. As a first step, that means understanding that transparency is not to be feared, and the people who bring it should not be resisted and looked at suspiciously. And second &#8211; away from words and onto concrete actions &#8211; it means sport starting to use the tools provided for them by betting operators who want to work in partnership, which would make it easier to combat the problems facing them than any other measure. Use the audit trail, link betting to names, and root corruption out of sport.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Understanding this, and acting on it, would allow sport to make the most of the commercial advantages that the betting market brings. I am not talking specifically about betting companies paying them directly for commercial agreements, although that is precisely what Betfair is doing voluntarily in Australia with the AFL, NRL, and cricket among others; we have done it with British greyhounds, and Irish horseracing; and we have committed to doing it elsewhere. I am also not talking about sponsorships coming from the betting companies, although it is interesting to note that just last week, Reinhard Rauball, the President of the Bundesliga in Germany, affirmed that the ban on foreign gambling advertisements would cost German football between â‚¬100 million and â‚¬300 million every year in lost revenues. I understand that even if we got to the point where regulators and betting operators were working in partnership to stop corruption, many sports would prefer to keep at arms length from betting companies in other areas, and I fully respect that. Rather, I am referring to the notion that <strong>betting plays a significant role in helping sports to internationalise their marketplaces</strong>, and ultimately, we now all compete in the global village.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">In other words, although sports today recognize that they need to embrace a modern, global audience, they spend a lot of time working against the very sorts of organizations which might help it to achieve one.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Let me give you an example. There is a racing newsletter published in Australia called BetAngel. It is dedicated to a whole new audience who, since the arrival of Betfair, trade the sports markets as if they were the financial markets. Their March edition began with the words, &#8220;Wind back nearly eight years ago, when Betfair started and I joined them, I had no idea what Cheltenham was all about&#8221; &#8211; before going on, for eleven pages, to lay out the best strategies for punting on Britain&#8217;s premier Jumps Racing festival. In a similar vein, Betfair this year had e-mails from all over the world eulogising about the up-to-the-minute coverage and ideas being distributed far and wide by Betfair Radio on that same Cheltenham Festival &#8211; from Cyprus, Belgium, India, Singapore and &#8211; yes &#8211; New Zealand. <strong>The extent to which we are broadening the appeal of British horseracing is incontestable if you look at our international audience and the 85 or so countries from which we list customers.</strong> By virtue of the mechanism by which we pay to British racing a percentage of the profits which we achieve on British racing, it is fair to say that today money is coming in from the four corners of the earth which just a few years ago was staying firmly put.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;"><strong>Betfair is committed to paying sports bodies a percentage of the profits achieved on betting on events run under their jurisdiction. But if the betting markets continue to be seen as a problem, then they cannot at the same time be seen as an opportunity, and sports worldwide cannot make the most of that commitment. </strong>In contrast, if we could get sports administrators to realise that we do not threaten their integrity in a regulated and open environment; if we could get them to work with us, on commercial terms, and not against us; if we could get them to understand that the utopian world of no betting on sport is exactly that &#8211; utopian &#8211; and that the sensible thing is to work with the regulated market to ensure maximum transparency and minimum outlets for those would corrupt; if we could do all these things, then it wouldn&#8217;t be a question of sport putting on the show and the betting industry benefitting. It would be <strong>a question of sport broadening and maintaining its audience; of sharing in the first derivative market which stems from it &#8211; the betting market; and of the two industries working together to ensure that every tool is used to keep both the underlying commodity and the derivative market clean.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">So I am here today to try to give you a new understanding of sports betting. I want you to understand that as far as we at Betfair are concerned, the regulated betting industry today is not some backwater of corruption in smoke-filled rooms, but a modern leisure industry which engages its customers and allows them to get involved on a participatory level that enhances their enjoyment; that it is an industry which harnesses those customers, and wants to do so in partnership with sport rather than at the expense of sport; that what sport today should expect from <strong>a modern bookmaking operator</strong>, as I told Sport Accord back in 2003, is a financial return which recognises that sport is putting on the show and seeks to demonstrate the good faith that leads to partnerships that leads to everyone growing the cake; and &#8211; entirely unconnected with any commercial agreement &#8211; they should expect information on what betting is taking place on their product, and &#8211; and I cannot over-emphasize this enough &#8211; by whom, in order to allow it to fulfil its role of policing the sport.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">There are plenty of issues facing sport today, as there always will be. But feeling it has to fight betting should simply not be one of them. Sport has to fight corruption, using every tool it can; and the betting companies, who also, like the sports bodies, have brand names to defend; and, in a way that sports do not, more often than not have market values and share prices to protect, have to fight it too. So in conclusion, let me say it one more time: the legal and regulated betting companies around the world want to work with sport, not against it. But they need sports to recognise that it isn&#8217;t betting that causes problems, but corruption. I hope we can fight it together.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Thank you.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Mark Davies of BetFair</p>
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<p>The best text that I have ever read about sports betting.</p>
<p><strong>It&#8217;s that kind of speech that the US Congress should hear.</strong></p>
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<p>The Winston Churchill joke was lame.</p>
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<p>Took me like one hour to read it in full, but every sentence was worth my effort.</p>
<p>All the issues he raised were known to me, but it was fine to see them all gathered in one place.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m still persuaded that the Winston Churchill joke was lame.</p>
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<p>8 April 2008</p>
<p>by Michael Herborn</p>
<p><strong>Mark Davies, managing director of global betting giant Betfair, has called for a world anti-corruption agency for sport. He envisions that the anti-corruption agency would operate along the same lines as the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), perhaps encompassing the role as both global watchdog for financial as well as pharmaceutical corruption of sport.</strong> â€œThere isn&#8217;t a body that sits at the top of sport that&#8217;s something we&#8217;d love to see, a world integrity agency that encompasses both drugs and betting and any other form of corruption,â€ Davies told New Zealand newspaper the <em>Sunday Star Times</em> at the Leaders in Sport conference in Auckland on 4 April 2008. â€œFor me it should be <strong>the same body.</strong> If a sportsman is trying to corrupt by enhancing his performance by drugs or trying to corrupt by minimising his performance and make money off the back of it, I don&#8217;t see a distinction.â€ [...]</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[BetFair-TradeFair press release (2007-12-03): Betfair enters financial markets with Tradefair launch Tradefair to provide a revolutionary new retail binaries exchange Betfair, the world&#8217;s leading online betting exchange has announced the formation of an exciting new business, Tradefair. Established to provide &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/18/tradefair-binaries-is-clearly-the-major-and-tradefair-spreads-is-the-minor/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BetFair-TradeFair press release (2007-12-03):</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Betfair enters financial markets with Tradefair launch</strong><br />
Tradefair to provide a revolutionary new <strong>retail binaries</strong> exchange</p>
<p><a href="http://www.betfair.com/" title="Betfair">Betfair</a>, the world&#8217;s leading online betting exchange has announced the formation of an exciting new business, <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a>. Established to <strong>provide a range of financial products to the retail market</strong>, <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> launches with a binaries trading exchange and a traditional spread betting offering.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> is based on the same core values of innovation and championing the customer that gave birth to <a href="http://www.betfair.com/" title="Betfair">Betfair</a>. <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> also shares with <a href="http://www.betfair.com/" title="Betfair">Betfair</a> the appetite for hugely ambitious goals. <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> aims to become the leading financial trading destination of choice offering its customers a range of traditional and exchange traded products.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.betfair.com/" title="Betfair">Betfair</a>â€™s CEO, David Yu said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Tradefair is a tremendous addition to the Betfair portfolio. It is a clear demonstration of Betfairâ€™s continued commitment to growth and innovation, and we hope to have the same revolutionary impact on the financial market as we have had on the sports betting market.</p></blockquote>
<p>Using <a href="http://www.betfair.com/" title="Betfair">Betfair</a>â€™s revolutionary technology, the binaries exchange allows anyone to set the price, be the market-maker and drive the best price on a range of major financial markets.</p>
<p><strong>The <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> concept originated from <a href="http://www.betfair.com/" title="Betfair">Betfair</a>â€™s New Ventures team</strong>, but will operate independently within the <a href="http://www.betfaircorporate.com/" title="Betfair Corporate">Betfair group of companies</a>. <strong>Set up by <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/2/37/a2a" title="David Jack">David Jack</a> and <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/2/59/b31" title="Martyn Holman">Martyn Holman</a>, <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> has also been aided in its development by Ed Warner, the former <a href="http://www.ifxmarkets.com/" title="IFX Markets">IFX Markets</a> CEO.</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Applying Betfairâ€™s world class exchange technology to financial markets will have far reaching implications for the type of markets offered, the level of access and overall value and opportunities for the customer,</p></blockquote>
<p>said David Jack.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> is hoping to encourage leading financial businesses and institutional market-makers to participate on the exchange in order to generate liquidity and intra-business trading and <strong><em>even hedge their own exposures</em>. </strong>Regardless of whether the trader is an individual or a business, everyone will have the equivalent to direct market access through <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a>â€™s web based trading site and standard industry interfaces.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a>â€™s initial offering will focus on two types of financial trading products <strong>(<em>both of which are currently free from capital gains tax and stamp-duty for UK tax residents</em>): binaries offered on a binaries exchange and traditional financial spread betting.</strong></p>
<p>Anyone can be a <strong>market-maker</strong> on the exchange â€“ assuming they have the capital â€“ enabling smarter, more cost-efficient traders to compete in setting the price. The exchange also offers traders the ability to gain exposure to what might traditionally be called <strong>â€˜esotericâ€™ markets</strong> which in reality underpin the driving forces of the world economy, including <strong>economic indicators such as central bank decisions and employment data.</strong> The range of markets available on the exchange will grow over time, but already includes <strong>major indices, currency pairings and commodities markets.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> Spreads, provided via a white label agreement with London Capital Group, is <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a>â€™s traditional financial spread betting product. <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> Spreads believes that it offers traders some of the best prices and lowest funding charges available with many added extras to assist with analysis and information to inform trading decisions.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/05/binaries-and-spreads-betfair-spins-off-tradefair/" title="Binaries and Spreads: BetFair spins off TradeFair.">Binaries and Spreads: BetFair spins off TradeFair</a>. + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/06/meet-david-jack-the-managing-director-of-tradefair/" title="David Jack (Managing Director of TradeFair, a BetFair spin-off)">Meet <strong>David Jack</strong>, the managing director of TradeFair</a>. + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/30/tradefair-binaries-user-guide-what-is-trading/" title="Often financial traders do not keep a position open until a market expires, but are looking to profit from very short term price movements by closing out open positions with an equal and opposite trade.">TradeFair Binaries <strong>User Guide</strong> &#8211; What is Trading?</a> + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/29/betfair%e2%80%99s-global-warming-prediction-markets-cfms-views/" title="BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets â€” CFMâ€™s Views">BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets â€” CFMâ€™s Views</a> + <strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/06/why-does-tradefair-care-about-prediction-markets/" title="Tradefair is Betfairâ€™s new home for the financial bettor and trader - our binaries exchange product has opened with straightforward traditional financial markets (FTSE up/down)...">Why does Tradefair care about Prediction Markets</a> &#8211; by TradeFair&#8217;s David Jack</strong> &#8211; 2007-12-06</p>
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		<title>Do sports prediction markets corrupt sport? No.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Davies (&#8220;managing director of corporate affairs at BetFair&#8221; = their spin doctor) in The Guardian: Does the existence of betting exchanges corrupt sport? NO In the world of finance, it has always been far easier for employees to have &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/12/do-sports-prediction-markets-corrupt-sport-no/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://sport.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2226046,00.html" title="Does the existence of betting exchanges corrupt sport?">Mark Davies (&#8220;managing director of corporate affairs at <strong>BetFair</strong>&#8221; = their spin doctor) in <em>The Guardian</em></a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Does the existence of betting exchanges corrupt sport?</strong></p>
<p><strong>NO</strong></p>
<p>In the world of finance, it has always been far easier for employees to have a negative impact on a company&#8217;s share price than a positive one. Even a chief executive would be hard pushed to cause a price rise on any given day, but anyone with physical access to the company can very easily cause a fall. No one would suggest people should only be able to buy shares, and not sell them. Instead, <strong>regulators ensure that sanctions against corruption tip the balance heavily against trying it. </strong>Make the penalty draconian, and you deal with corruption at its heart.</p>
<p>Betting on sport is no different. <strong>The only people who can corrupt sport are those taking part &#8211; <em>a fact unchanged by the existence of betting exchanges</em>.</strong> If you prevent people from succumbing to the temptation, would-be corrupters have no one to help them . You and I cannot rig a race just because we can bet against its outcome: we need someone who can affect the result. If that person might lose a livelihood, would they risk it for a fast buck?</p>
<p><strong>Attack corruption at source</strong>, and it does not matter where the bet was placed. Nevertheless, some still long for the days when more traditional bookmakers held every card (an interesting notion considering what has historically been their dubious reputation); others prefer a Tote monopoly; and some believe that banning bets against outcomes would constrain corrupters.</p>
<p><strong>This series of arguments is based on the naÃ¯ve belief that a black market does not exist.</strong> This is absurd. Asian syndicates behind apparently rigged football matches (like those who turned floodlights out at grounds in the late 1990s) are no more dependent on Britain&#8217;s legitimate market than Colombian drugs barons are on sales of aspirin at Boots. The difference between legal, regulated, transparent betting &#8211; nowhere more so than <strong>on the leading betting exchange [= BetFair], <em>where every transaction is open to scrutiny from 29 different sporting regulators</em></strong> &#8211; and the murky, illegal market, is the difference between chalk and cheese.</p>
<p>Black markets thrive where legal ones offer poor value. Now that the exchanges offer the best value, those previously tempted by odds on the black market are returning to the legal fold. <strong>Corruption-free sport comes from total transparency. </strong>The exchanges are the only part of the market that offer it. People get hung up on &#8220;betting to lose&#8221;.</p>
<p>Leave aside the obvious: bets to win (most clearly demonstrated in two outcome sports like tennis or snooker) are direct bets on the opposite outcome to lose. &#8220;Betting to lose&#8221; is just betting at value: if the price unfairly reflects the realistic chance of something happening, why should you not bet against it?</p>
<p><strong>Value bets, placed for or against, are perfectly legitimate;</strong> acting to impact a given outcome adversely is corrupt. But banning the former through fear of the latter is like banning cutlery because some people use knives to harm. <strong>It is not the knives doing the damage, but the criminals using them.</strong> Legal betting does not corrupt sport; people do &#8211; and they are more likely to do it when they think they w ill not get caught. Measures to protect sport are not best aimed at open, transparent, and audited betting markets but through its participants, where the corruption can occur.</p></blockquote>
<p>Excellent.</p>
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		<title>TradeFair&#8217;s David Jack = the $20 million man</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hidden this morning deep into The Sunday Times: Betfair, the online sports-betting firm, has invested Â£10m to launch Tradefair, a new subsidiary company specialising in bets on the financial markets. It believes that the market for financial betting could exceed &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/09/tradefairs-david-jack-the-20-million-man/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/leisure/article3021311.ece" title="Rankâ€™s new secret raider breaks cover">Hidden this morning deep into <em>The Sunday Times</em></a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong> Betfair, the online sports-betting firm, has invested Â£10m to launch Tradefair</strong>, a new subsidiary company specialising in bets on the financial markets. It believes that the market for financial betting could exceed <strong>Â£400m. </strong>[*] Tradefair will operate independently of its parent. [**]</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Â£10 million = $20.3 million = â‚¬13.9 million</strong> &#8212; [Thanks to David Pennock's <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/currency" title="Currency Converter">Yahoo! Currency Converter</a>. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
<p>[*] BetFair and TradeFair traders share the same BetFair account, as I understand it.</p>
<p>[**] I suppose (based on BetFair&#8217;s share of the UK betting market) that TradeFair wants 5% of that (for a start) &#8212;so that would be Â£20 million. &#8212; But we don&#8217;t know what that Â£400 million figure came from, in the first place. David Jack&#8217;s wet dreams? For the UK market only (in an increasingly global environment for exchanges)? For what year exactly? 2008? 2026? Mystery. Of course, no source is cited.</p>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/05/binaries-and-spreads-betfair-spins-off-tradefair/" title="Binaries and Spreads: BetFair spins off TradeFair.">Binaries and Spreads: BetFair spins off TradeFair</a>. + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/06/meet-david-jack-the-managing-director-of-tradefair/" title="David Jack (Managing Director of TradeFair, a BetFair spin-off)">Meet <strong>David Jack</strong>, the managing director of TradeFair</a>. + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/30/tradefair-binaries-user-guide-what-is-trading/" title="Often financial traders do not keep a position open until a market expires, but are looking to profit from very short term price movements by closing out open positions with an equal and opposite trade.">TradeFair Binaries <strong>User Guide</strong> &#8211; What is Trading?</a> + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/29/betfair%e2%80%99s-global-warming-prediction-markets-cfms-views/" title="BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets â€” CFMâ€™s Views">BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets â€” CFMâ€™s Views</a> + <strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/06/why-does-tradefair-care-about-prediction-markets/" title="Tradefair is Betfairâ€™s new home for the financial bettor and trader - our binaries exchange product has opened with straightforward traditional financial markets (FTSE up/down)...">Why does Tradefair care about Prediction Markets</a> &#8211; by TradeFair&#8217;s David &#8220;$20 million&#8221; Jack</strong> &#8211; 2007-12-06</p>
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		<title>Alas, TradeFair managing director confirms that they will float financial event derivatives, only.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 09:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Jack has just published a blog post on Midas Oracle, and here&#8217;s one short excerpt: Take a look at Betfair today &#8211; it has some of the most liquid, volatile and high participation prediction markets in the world. Participation &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/07/alas-tradefair-managing-director-confirms-that-they-will-float-financial-event-derivatives-only/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/06/why-does-tradefair-care-about-prediction-markets/" title="Why does Tradefair care about Prediction Markets"><strong>David Jack has just published a blog post on <em>Midas Oracle</em></strong>, and here&#8217;s one short excerpt</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Take a look at <a href="http://www.betfair.com/" title="Betfair">Betfair</a> today &#8211; it has some of the most liquid, volatile and high participation prediction markets in the world. Participation drives the price down and provides fantastic value to our customers. This has allowed us to build a business that we are all really proud of. <strong>The <a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="Tradefair">Tradefair</a> team believe that by <em>focusing on financial markets</em>, delivering exchange technology that allows mass participation in an accessible, highly available and transparent manner will allow us bring that same value proposition to <em>the financial sector</em>.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/30/tradefair-binaries-user-guide-what-is-trading/" title="TradeFair Binaries User Guide - What is Trading?">TradeFair&#8217;s 0-100 trading engine</a> could also be used to float all kinds of event derivatives, not just the financials. It will take time for us to understand why they insist to corner TradeFair into the financial sector, exclusively &#8212;<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/10/02/is-it-the-end-for-us-based-betting-exchange-hedgestreet/" title="Is it the end for US-based betting exchange HedgeStreet?"><em>a la</em> HedgeStreet</a>.</p>
<p>DEVELOPING&#8230; (as Matt Drudge is used to write.)</p>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/05/binaries-and-spreads-betfair-spins-off-tradefair/" title="Binaries and Spreads: BetFair spins off TradeFair.">Binaries and Spreads: BetFair spins off TradeFair</a>. + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/06/meet-david-jack-the-managing-director-of-tradefair/" title="David Jack (Managing Director of TradeFair, a BetFair spin-off)">Meet <strong>David Jack</strong>, the managing director of TradeFair</a>. + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/30/tradefair-binaries-user-guide-what-is-trading/" title="Often financial traders do not keep a position open until a market expires, but are looking to profit from very short term price movements by closing out open positions with an equal and opposite trade.">TradeFair Binaries <strong>User Guide</strong> &#8211; What is Trading?</a> + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/29/betfair%e2%80%99s-global-warming-prediction-markets-cfms-views/" title="BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets â€” CFMâ€™s Views">BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets â€” CFMâ€™s Views</a></p>
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		<title>BetFair traders discuss TradeFair&#8217;s 0-100 trading interface.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And conclude that that&#8217;s the way to go!!!!! &#8211; (page 2): BinarySoft Chris 27 Nov 10:38 I won&#8217;t be one of the initial MMers nope, but I may well do it at some point next year, depending on the spreads &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/06/betfair-traders-discuss-tradefairs-0-100-trading-interface/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=65&amp;forumName=Tradefair+%26+Financials&amp;threadID=1280659&amp;tName=Tradefair&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=65"><strong>And conclude that that&#8217;s the way to go!!!!!</strong></a> &#8211; (<a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/thread.jspa?messageID=null&amp;threadID=1280659&amp;start=50&amp;tstart=0&amp;schatname=">page 2</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>BinarySoft Chris     27 Nov 10:38<br />
I won&#8217;t be one of the initial MMers nope, but I may well do it at some point next year, depending on the spreads of the initial MM(s). That&#8217;s also assuming they do have a MM &#8211; launching TF Binaries without a MM would be a very unwise move! <strong>You are right that <em>decimal odds</em> are a bit counter-intuitive for trading</strong> &#8211; this is one of the main reasons why I developed BDI (binary-betting interface to the Betfair API) and it also means expanding it to allow support for Tradefair should be possible with very few alterations to the interface &#8211; possibly as straightforward as just displaying both BF and TF markets in the market navigation tree <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BinarySoft Chris     30 Nov 10:32<br />
If it&#8217;s <strong>a native binary exchange</strong> (and I suspect it is), then tradefair will remain a *separate* exchange, because the conversion from binary &#8211; decimal is not exact.</p>
<p>Dr Who     06 Dec 07:37<br />
jules, BinarySoft Chris, or whoever you are, I take it you&#8217;re the guy behind BinarySoft. Just guessing of course.<br />
Tell me, what is that nonsense on your site which says, &#8220;Binary prices are the most natural and intuitive way of expressing odds&#8221;? How can you possibly be taken seriously making a gaff like that? Why go to all the trouble to make <strong>decimal prices</strong>, which are in fact the most natural and intuitive way of expressing odds, into a completely arbitrary system like yours? When [<strong>Tradesports</strong>] started I spent a while developing an app to convert their daft Buy/Sell pricing system into decimal notation so I could arb between TS and BF. Now I&#8217;m sure there may be some <strong>city types who are used to the Buy/Sell system</strong> but to call it a &#8216;natural&#8217; or &#8216;intuitive&#8217; way of expressing odds is complete b0llox. I wish your software well but can&#8217;t see why anyone on earth would want to deviate from what is being offered on BF or Tradefair. Unless you can persaude me otherwise with an argument I haven&#8217;t thought of <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BinarySoft Chris     06 Dec 11:40<br />
Dr Who &#8211; I appreciate that binary prices will not be the most suitable for everyone, and also they may take a little while to get used to for people previously used to thinking purely in terms of decimal odds. However, <strong>the vast majority of the people who have made the switch to binary prices agree that thinking purely in terms of <em>percentage chances</em> is a faster and simpler way to trade (and also a more natural way to price any contract/market).</strong><br />
See this link for more comparisons:<br />
<a href="http://www.binarysoft.co.uk/bdi/why-binary-prices.php">http://www.binarysoft.co.uk/bdi/why-binary-prices.php</a><br />
This states the case pretty convincingly in favour of binary prices &#8211; what advantages can you come up with for decimal odds?</p>
<p>BinarySoft Chris     06 Dec 11:52<br />
<strong>Another advantage in favour of using binary prices for trading is that &#8220;buying&#8221; and &#8220;selling&#8221; are more natural ways of describing the trading process than &#8220;backing&#8221; and &#8220;laying&#8221;, especially for people who aren&#8217;t used to betting exchanges. </strong>Also, the fact that Tradefair natively uses binary prices means that Betfair appear to be in favour of this method of expressing odds (well certainly for financial bets anyway). The next version of BDI will also be able to access both Betfair and Tradefair from the same interface, with seamless switching between Betfair/Tradefair markets. <strong><em>Currently, users of Tradefair and (non-BDI) users of Betfair will have to keep on switching between decimal and binary odds if they wish to trade on both exchanges</em></strong> &#8211; it&#8217;s probably easier to just think in terms of a single way of expressing odds.</p>
<p>Dr Who     06 Dec 12:19<br />
I said &#8221; My argument is that decimal notation is a much more intuitive and natural way to express [probabilities].&#8221; I&#8217;ve just read that back and frankly its complete b0llox. I&#8217;m happy to try out your interface Chris and see how it feels. I&#8217;m always happy to change my position if the facts warrant change but I found the <strong>Tradesports</strong> interface difficult.</p>
<p>BinarySoft Chris Â Â Â  06 Dec 17:04<br />
One of the issues with that exchange you mentioned <strong>[TradeSports] is that it deals in &#8220;lots&#8221;</strong> &#8211; each lot is normally $0.10/point but it can vary for different markets and thus can get pretty confusing. <strong>Every other binary betting related product uses stakes expressed purely in terms of amount/point (Tradefair, other financial bookmakers and BDI). </strong></p></blockquote>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/05/betfair-officially-launches-tradefair-one-onth-exactly-after-it-was-announced-on-midas-oracle-and-the-mugshot-of-its-managing-director-published-for-all-to-see/" title="Tradefair Binaries - is a financial exchange product that uses Betfairâ€™s revolutionary but familiar technology to allow you to bet on the worldâ€™s financial markets."><strong>BetFair officially launches TradeFair</strong>, one month exactly after it was announced on Midas Oracle, and the mugshot of its managing director published for all to see.</a></p>
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		<title>GUARDIAN BLOGGER: BETFAIR SPIN-DOCTOR DOES NOT SAY THE TRUTH ABOUT SPORTS CORRUPTION.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lawrence Donegan: Odds-on liquidity showing interest in Scottish youth Can it really be more than a month since Betfair&#8217;s Mark Davies appeared in print to reject the suggestion that the gambling boom is in any way responsible for the apparent &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/06/guardian-blogger-betfair-spin-doctor-does-not-say-the-truth-about-sports-corruption/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/12/06/a_scandalous_decision_which_da.html" title="Odds-on liquidity showing interest in Scottish youth">Lawrence Donegan</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Odds-on liquidity showing interest in Scottish youth</p>
<p>Can it really be more than a month since <strong>Betfair&#8217;s Mark Davies appeared in print to reject the suggestion that <em>the gambling boom is in any way responsible for the apparent increase in corruption in sport</em></strong>, by pointing out that dodgy dealing has been around since the days of the gladiators? <strong>Presumably, reports of 15 football matches from this season being under investigation will see Davis, like Edward Gibbon in a pork-pie hat, return to the fray with another tale from the Colosseum. </strong>Meanwhile, far from events at Anfield &#8211; figuratively if not geographically &#8211; comes news that under-21 games in Scotland are the subject of huge bets by Asian gamblers. Some might think this is a sinister development but not the Betfair spokesman, who told the Daily Record last month that the company would be happy to open a book on the youth sporting market if there was &#8220;liquidity and interest&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>With all due respect to the Guardian blogger cited above, I side <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/10/20/the-betfair-spin-doctor-is-out-to-insist-that-betfair-is-clean/" title="The BetFair spin doctor is out to insist that BetFair is clean.">with Mark Davies</a>. See his verbatim, just below.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><a href="http://burgenstock.sfoa.org/2006/Davies.htm" title="Mark Davies, 35, joined Betfair in March 2000, and is the company's Managing Director (Corporate Affairs)."><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/mark-davies.jpg" alt="Mark Davies, BetFairâ€™s Managing Director (Corporate Affairs)" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/263/759" title="Mark Davies">Mark Davies</a> (BetFairâ€™s Managing Director)</p>
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<p>Mark Davies interviewed by <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/10/09/sthodg109.xml" title=" Corruption 'has always gone on'"><em>The Daily Telegraph</em></a> (in October 2007):</p>
<blockquote><p>[Tennis] has always been liable to corruption.</p>
<p><strong>I think that all sport has always been liable to corruption, by the very nature of it producing clear results one way or another. </strong>They say that chariot races were rigged for financial reward. I don&#8217;t see why subsequent sporting events should suddenly have been less liable to corrupt practice. We would strongly dispute the idea that sport suddenly has a corruption problem because of the boom in gambling.</p>
<p>The amount of money bet in the legal market may have grown â€” who knows if it has risen or fallen in the illegal one? â€” but the number of people who can be tempted by that money and use it for corrupt reasons is the same as it always was.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>BetFair officially launches TradeFair, one month exactly after it was announced on Midas Oracle, and the mugshot of its managing director published for all to see.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[BetFair (today, Wednesday, December 5, 2007): Betfair Launches Tradefair Betfair Customer Services 05 Dec 14:35 We would like to inform you of the launch of a new business within the Betfair group of companies, Tradefair. Tradefair is for anyone interested &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/05/betfair-officially-launches-tradefair-one-onth-exactly-after-it-was-announced-on-midas-oracle-and-the-mugshot-of-its-managing-director-published-for-all-to-see/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><strong>Betfair Launches Tradefair</strong></p>
<p>Betfair Customer Services     <strong>05 Dec</strong> 14:35</p>
<p>We would like to inform you of the launch of <strong>a new business</strong> within the Betfair group of companies, Tradefair. <strong>Tradefair is for anyone interested in trading on financial markets.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Tradefair Binaries</strong> &#8211; is a financial exchange product that uses Betfairâ€™s revolutionary but familiar technology to allow you to bet on the worldâ€™s financial markets. With markets as simple as &#8220;Is FTSE going to close up or down today?&#8221; and markets featuring other indices, currencies and interest-rate movements, there should be something for everybody. You can use your existing Betfair account, you know exactly how much you can win or lose and can even set your own price. Go to <a href="http://www.tradefair.com">http://www.tradefair.com</a> to find out more.</p>
<p><strong><em>Additionally</em></strong>, we are pleased to announce that <strong>Tradefair Spreads</strong> offers you financial spread trading at <a href="http://www.tradefair.com">http://www.tradefair.com</a>.</p>
<p>Keep an eye out for more details about Tradefair Binaries and Tradefair Spreads in future weeks!</p></blockquote>
<p>Very interesting press release: it shows that they view <strong><a href="http://www.tradefair.com/" title="TradeFair">TradeFair</a></strong> strictly as a <strong><em>financial </em>event derivative exchange</strong> (just like HedgeStreet was, in the US) &#8212;which, from its UK base, will probably reach out to continental Europe, and possibly to the US, later on, when the national regulations allow. The second interesting clue is that they view the spreads as a sidebar product &#8212;good (I don&#8217;t like spreads). The third clue is that they confirm what the Midas Oracle readers already knew: TradeFair is a <strong>spin-off</strong>, not just an additional brand.</p>
<p>Just a remark related to the first point. Let&#8217;s suppose (crazy supposition) that, later on, they understand that they were wrong to corner TradeFair as a financial-only prediction exchange. They will easily be able to re-brand it as a <em>generalist</em> exchange (like TradeSports-InTrade), later on. Nothing is really engraved in marble for the eternity. (They could also use the TradeFair software to power generalist prediction markets on another exchange, later on, maybe, who knows.)</p>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/05/binaries-and-spreads-betfair-spins-off-tradefair/" title="Binaries and Spreads: BetFair spins off TradeFair.">Binaries and Spreads: BetFair <strong>spins off</strong> TradeFair</a>. (<strong>published on November 5, 2007</strong>) + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/06/meet-david-jack-the-managing-director-of-tradefair/" title="David Jack (Managing Director of TradeFair, a BetFair spin-off)">Meet <strong>David Jack</strong>, the managing director of TradeFair</a>. + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/30/tradefair-binaries-user-guide-what-is-trading/" title="Often financial traders do not keep a position open until a market expires, but are looking to profit from very short term price movements by closing out open positions with an equal and opposite trade.">TradeFair Binaries <strong>User Guide</strong> &#8211; What is Trading?</a> + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/29/betfair%e2%80%99s-global-warming-prediction-markets-cfms-views/" title="BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets â€” CFMâ€™s Views">BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets â€” CFMâ€™s Views</a> (My citicism of BetFair&#8217;s entry in the prediction market field)</p>
<p><em>NEXT</em>: <strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/06/why-does-tradefair-care-about-prediction-markets/" title="Tradefair is Betfairâ€™s new home for the financial bettor and trader - our binaries exchange product has opened with straightforward traditional financial markets (FTSE up/down)...">Why does Tradefair care about Prediction Markets</a> &#8211; by TradeFair&#8217;s David Jack</strong> &#8211; 2007-12-06</p>
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