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		<title>What makes people comment like crazy on Midas Oracle? &#8211;&gt; ANSWER &#8211;&gt; Suspense, Suspense &#8211;&gt; John Maynard Keynes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As noticed by our good Doctor Professor Michael Giberson (of Knowledge Problem fame): The appropriateness of the â€œprediction marketâ€ label to an information aggregation mechanism &#8212; 39 comments The best way to rank the best ideas coming from the rank &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/25/keynesian-beauty-contest/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-17378" title="keynes" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/keynes.jpg" alt="keynes" width="485" height="639" /></a></p>
<p>As <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/24/can-a-keynesian-beauty-contest-improve-pres-obama%E2%80%99s-suggestion-box-for-u-s-government-employees/#comment-25657">noticed</a> by our good Doctor Professor Michael Giberson (of <strong><a href="http://knowledgeproblem.com/">Knowledge Problem</a></strong> fame):</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/08/27/ibm-smarter-cities-prediction-markets-spigit/">The appropriateness of <strong>the â€œprediction marketâ€ label</strong> to an information aggregation mechanism</a> &#8212; <strong>39 comments</strong></li>
<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/24/can-a-keynesian-beauty-contest-improve-pres-obama%E2%80%99s-suggestion-box-for-u-s-government-employees/">The best way to <strong>rank the best ideas</strong> coming from the rank</a> &#8212; <strong>11 comments</strong> <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/24/deep-throats-take-of-emiles-take-of-the-save-program/#comment-25671">and going</a></li>
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<p>And both discussions feature the <strong>&#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_beauty_contest">Keynesian beauty contest</a>&#8220;</strong> argument. <strong>The argument <span style="color: #ff0000;">is frown</span> by some prediction market people <span style="color: #ff0000;">at some other prediction market people</span>, who take it as a grave insult.</strong> <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  So, if you like Keynes, and if you like real action, come in and join the fray. We are having fun.</p>
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		<title>Deep Throat&#8217;s take of Emile&#8217;s take of the SAVE AWARD program</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/24/deep-throats-take-of-emiles-take-of-the-save-program/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Emile&#8217;s idea is a half-beauty contest, but if Emile thinks the OMB officials have expertise that won&#8217;t be swayed by the crowd, then the original SAVE AWARD process was half-good as well. The officials would be able to count the &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/24/deep-throats-take-of-emiles-take-of-the-save-program/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emile&#8217;s idea is a half-beauty contest, but if Emile thinks the OMB officials have expertise that won&#8217;t be swayed by the crowd, then the original SAVE AWARD process was half-good as well.</p>
<p>The officials would be able to count the number of similar suggestions and in that way they would approximate aggregation. It&#8217;s just not as automatic as what Emile imagines.</p>
<p>[<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/24/can-a-keynesian-beauty-contest-improve-pres-obama%e2%80%99s-suggestion-box-for-u-s-government-employees/#comment-25627">Read Emile's comments here</a>.]</p>
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		<title>Can a Keynesian beauty contest improve Pres. Obamaâ€™s suggestion box for U.S government employees?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Giberson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[President Barack Obama has created the â€œSAVE Award,â€ a process by which U.S. government employees can submit ideas for â€œhow their agency can save money and perform better.â€ A committee of senior officials from the Office of Management and Budget &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/24/can-a-keynesian-beauty-contest-improve-pres-obama%e2%80%99s-suggestion-box-for-u-s-government-employees/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>President Barack Obama has created the â€œ<a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/save/SaveAwardHomePage/">SAVE Award</a>,â€ a process by which U.S. government employees can submit ideas for â€œhow their agency can save money and perform better.â€</strong> A committee of senior officials from the Office of Management and Budget at the White House will review the submissions and submit a short list to the President, and the President will pick the winner. The federal employee with the winning suggestion will get to meet the President and have the idea included in the governmentâ€™s next budget.</p>
<p><strong>NewsFutures suggests that <a href="http://newsfutures.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/obama-and-the-wisdom-of-the-federal-crowd/"> the SAVE Award approach just scratches the surface</a> of the possible benefits of crowdsourcing innovation. </strong>(Noted earlier <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/23/barack-obama-collective-intelligence/">in this post at <em>Midas Oracle</em></a>.) Here is their diagnosis and recommendation:</p>
<blockquote><p>Whatâ€™s wrong with this process?</p>
<p>There is <em>no</em> <em>aggregation</em> of the collective wisdom. The crowd is called on only to submit ideas, not to help evaluate them, which is the critical step in the delicate wisdom of crowd recipe. Instead, a bunch of political appointees in the OMB will decide which ideas get on the short list that the President will see. Needless to say, we would not dare propose such a simplistic process to our enterprise clients looking to harvest and select innovative ideas from their employees.</p>
<p>Hereâ€™s how it should be done: After everyone has proposed their ideas, ask everyone to <em>bet</em> (not vote) on which idea the President will ultimately select â€“ or alternatively, on which ideas will be short-listed by the OMB officials. The crowdâ€™s betting will quickly and efficiently produce a ranking of the best-to-worst ideas, and the result will be less arbitrary than what you can expect form a close-knit group of bureaucrats. Now, it doesnâ€™t mean that the OMB officials cannot have the ultimate say on what ends up on the short list that goes to the Oval Office, but their choice is at least informed by the crowdâ€™s aggregate choice.</p></blockquote>
<p>Letâ€™s ask NewsFuturesâ€™s question again: â€œWhatâ€™s wrong with this process?â€</p>
<p>Since the crowd is being asked to bet on which idea(s) will be chosen, not which ideas would actually produce the best productivity improvement, the betting will not â€œquickly and efficiently produce a ranking of the best-to-worst ideas.â€ Instead, it will produce a ranking of which items the bettors believe are more likely to be selected by the OMB and President.</p>
<p><strong>If the short list was actually determined by the betting rather than independently selected by the OMB, the process takes on elements of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_beauty_contest">Keynesian beauty contest</a>.</strong> No longer would bettors be betting on which ideas would be best, nor which idea among all submissions is most likely to be chosen by the President. Instead, the winning bettors would be those that best predicted which idea would be chosen from among those ideas most heavily favored by other bettors.</p>
<p><strong>Rather than aggregating collective intelligence to identify the best idea, the process instead becomes one in which, in Keynesâ€™ words, â€œwe devote our intelligences to anticipating what average opinion expects the average opinion to be.â€ </strong>Perhaps a prediction market or other mechanism for collecting the &#8220;wisdom of the crowd&#8221; could improve the SAVE Award process, but a Keynesian beauty contest seems the wrong way to go.</p>
<p>[The post was <a href="http://knowledgeproblem.com/2009/09/24/can-a-keynesian-beauty-contest-improve-obamas-suggestion-box-for-federal-employees/">originally published in slightly different form at <em>Knowledge Problem</em></a>.]</p>
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		<title>Barack Obama and the wisdom of the Federal crowd</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/09/23/barack-obama-collective-intelligence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://newsfutures.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/obama-and-the-wisdom-of-the-federal-crowd/">&#8220;<strong>There is no aggregation of the collective wisdom.</strong> The crowd is called on only to submit ideas, <strong>not to help evaluate them</strong>, which is the critical step in the delicate wisdom of crowd recipe.&#8221;</a></p>
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