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		<title>InTrade is not predictive, says notable financial journalist. &#8212; [SCREENSHOT]</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For info, here&#8217;s the Midas Oracle feed at Twitter. I publish there plenty of prediction market news that don&#8217;t appear on this blog.]]></description>
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<p>For info, <strong>here&#8217;s the <a href="http://twitter.com/midasoracle">Midas Oracle feed at Twitter</a>.</strong> I publish there plenty of prediction market news that don&#8217;t appear on this blog.</p>
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		<title>Drudge links directly to InTrade prediction markets, bypassing journalos. &#8212; [SCREENSHOT]</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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<p><a href="http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=84328"><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Romney-30-dec-2011.png" alt="" title="Romney 30 dec 2011" width="780" height="311" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-27892" /></a></p>
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		<title>Once again, Yahoo!&#8217;s David Rothschild forgets to cite InTrade and BetFair as probability sources. &#8212; [OOPS]</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/11/10/david-rothschild-intrade-betfair/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/signal/t-minus-363-days-election-2012-welcome-signal-000451089.html;_ylt=AjVkzd3RzP1m7iKLu7uZjLvDeOd_;_ylu=X3oDMTFnM3R1dWZ1BG1pdANCbG9nIEluZGV4IGJ5IEJsb2cEcG9zAzMxBHNlYwNNZWRpYUJsb2dJbmRleA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFpMm9iMzh1BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANibG9nBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3">Here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/09/23/yahoo-david-rothschild-intrade-prediction-markets/">Previously</a>.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo&#8217;s David Rothschild scraps market info from InTrade (and BetFair?), does not cite them, and does not link to them. &#8212; [UPDATED]</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/09/23/yahoo-david-rothschild-intrade-prediction-markets/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Pennock&#8217;s little protégé should receive a crash course about citing sources. C&#8217;est minable. UPDATE: David Rothschild e-mails me to say he forgot to link to InTrade and BetFair in that story, at publication time, but he added the links &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/09/23/yahoo-david-rothschild-intrade-prediction-markets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/perry-likelihood-nomination-free-fall-152358515.html">David Pennock&#8217;s little protégé</a> should receive a <a href="http://library.duke.edu/research/citing/">crash course about citing sources</a>.</p>
<p><del datetime="2011-09-24T09:23:44+00:00">C&#8217;est minable</del>.</p>
<p><strong>UPDATE: David Rothschild e-mails me to say he forgot to link to InTrade and BetFair in that story, at publication time, but he added the links <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/perry-likelihood-nomination-free-fall-152358515.html">later on</a>. Also, <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/electable-gop-presidential-hopefuls-204556449.html">he did link to InTrade and BetFair in the past</a>. Kudos to David.</strong></p>
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		<title>Are InTrade lying about the number of &#8216;predictions&#8217; they process? &#8212; [GUEST AUTHOR]</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Intrade now post the following claim on their home page: Platform Metrics (More Soon) Platform operational: Since 2001 Total Predictions: 619,141,899 Average Daily Predictions: 169,589 This is just a preposterous misrepresentation of the volume of activity on the site. The &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/09/13/intrade-liquidity-exchange-predictions/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intrade now post the following claim on their home page:</p>
<p>Platform Metrics (More Soon)<br />
Platform operational: Since 2001<br />
Total Predictions: 619,141,899<br />
<strong>Average Daily Predictions: 169,589</strong></p>
<p>This is just a preposterous misrepresentation of the volume of activity on the site.</p>
<p>The average number of contracts traded per day for the year to date is 9k, with a median of 8k. Those numbers are way up from 2010, before the change from high transaction fees to a small, flat monthly fee.</p>
<p>Since there is someone on both sides of each trade, it&#8217;s could be fair to say that each trade represents two predictions so you can double the trading volume if you are counting &#8220;predictions&#8221; instead. But counting predictions raises another problem.</p>
<p><strong>If I think Sarah Palin will run and I place an order to buy 100 contracts, I have not made 100 predictions. I have made one prediction.</strong> (Even if I place an order today, and another order tomorrow, unless I am buying or selling at a very different price from the first order it&#8217;s a stretch to say that I&#8217;m making new predictions with every order.)</p>
<p>So there are at least two problems:</p>
<p><strong>One is that it&#8217;s silly to call every contract a separate prediction</strong> when a single person, acting on a single point of view (e.g., Palin has a 25-30% chance of running) can buy or sell many individual contracts (buying at 24, selling at 31, for instance, without changing their &#8220;prediction&#8221; at all). And of course these trades often happen in blocks of 10 or 100 or 1000 contracts anyway.</p>
<p><strong>Two is that whether you are counting, trades, contracts traded, or &#8220;predictions&#8221; you don&#8217;t get anywhere near the 170k daily &#8220;somethings&#8221; that Intrade is claiming. Unless&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Perhaps they are not only counting each contract as a separate &#8220;prediction,&#8221; even if a single order is for many contracts. Perhaps they are also counting every order, whether it is executed or not. That is, I put in an order to buy 100 contracts of Palin at 24, and they count 100 &#8220;predictions.&#8221; Then I put in an order to buy 500 at 10, and another for 1000 at 1, and another for 5000 at .1, and a sell for 1000 at 99&#8230; and by Intrade&#8217;s math I&#8217;ve just made nearly eight thousand predictions. and when I change the order for 100 at 24 to 100 at 24.1, that&#8217;s another 100 predictions. And when some bozo puts in an order to buy 5000 shares of something for a penny after the event has already happened, that&#8217;s 5k more &#8220;predictions.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>The urge to publish big, impressive numbers about activity on Intrade is understandable. Venturing into fantasyland to get there is just embarrassing.</strong></p>
<p>Speaking of math, my very rough estimate is that Intrade is collecting twice as much per month in fees via the $5/month charge than they would have been based on the pre-2011 transaction fees.</p>
<p>This is good for Intrade, good for active traders, and horrid for smaller accounts. It&#8217;s also a short-term situation with a bad ending. Once the small accounts are mostly closed out or leeched down to a zero balance, then what? How many mid- or large-sized, reasonably active accounts are there? Within 2-3 years can one really expect there to be more than a few thousand accounts left? Some new big players may come into the mix if they see the good deal, but each one is only worth $60/year.</p>
<p>Even if you think Intrade will have 15k active accounts in a few years (which I don&#8217;t), that&#8217;s still less than a million dollars of top line revenue. Larger traders will probably tolerate an increase in fees at some point, but still I do not see how Intrade gets from the current situation to a future as a solid, profitable, growing company that is more than a flea compared to BetFair.</p>
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		<title>Though not a legal, registered financial advisor, Justin Wolfers hands out financial &#8216;advice&#8217; to anyone who is foolish enough to listen. &#8212; [SCREENSHOT]</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[More. - &#8220;A financial adviser or stock broker should be licensed to provide any consultation on investment in securities.&#8221; -]]></description>
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<p><a href="https://twitter.com/#!/JustinWolfers/status/113066860202827776">More</a>.</p>
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<p>&#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_adviser#Regulation">A financial adviser or stock broker should be licensed to provide any consultation on investment in securities.</a>&#8221;</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=656777"> <img src="http://data.intrade.com/graphing/closingChart.gif?contractId=656777" height="337" width="690" alt="TITLE" title="TITLE" border="0"></a></p>
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		<title>John Delaney&#8217;s OB &#8212; [RANT]</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I die, I want the doctor Pennock to write my ob. Then, I am sure only the good things will be highlighted. On InTrade: All the economists blogging about their prediction markets never mentioned the numerous disputes about the &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/08/08/john-delaneys-obituary/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2011/08/01/john-delaney-death/">When I die, I want the doctor Pennock to write my ob</a>. Then, I am sure only the good things will be highlighted.</p>
<p><strong>On InTrade:</strong> All the economists blogging about their prediction markets never mentioned <a href="http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/540/4855.page">the numerous disputes</a> about the non-sport contracts (North Korean Missile, Closure of Gitmo, Departure of Hosni Mubarak, <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/08/03/intrade-crisis-debt-ceiling-prediction-markets-scandal/">US Debt Ceiling</a>, etc. etc. etc. etc.).</p>
<p><strong>On John Delaney&#8217;s death:</strong> <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/05/25/george-loewenstein-moutain-climbers-risks/">He did something very risky (climbing the top of the mount Everest)</a> for <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/06/20/confirmation-john-delaneys-behavior-was-irrational-link/">his own pleasure</a>, and <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/05/24/intrade-ceo-john-delaney-42-died-on-may-21-2011-while-climbing-mount-everest-and-his-body-will-lay-there-obituary/">he left a widow and a bunch of orphans</a>. According to one InTrade trader, <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/12/07/sacha-peter-intrade-tradesports/">his personality raised red flags in the past</a>.</p>
<p>Disclosure: I am not an investor in prediction market companies, contrary to some lauding commentors under <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2011/08/01/john-delaney-death/">the David Pennock post</a>.</p>
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		<title>The InTrade crisis deepens as their #1 fanboy calls for unwinding all trades on the debt ceiling prediction market &#8212; [SCANDAL]</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Previously: Post-Delaney InTrade experiences turmoil related to the debt ceiling prediction market. — [CHART + LINK] As I said many times, Carl Wolfenden is an incompetent, and all the economists advertising InTrade on their blogs and in the media are &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/08/03/intrade-crisis-debt-ceiling-prediction-markets-scandal/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/08/02/intrade-debt-ceiling/">Post-Delaney InTrade experiences turmoil related to the debt ceiling prediction market</a>. — [CHART + LINK]</p>
<p><strong>As I said many times, <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/02/08/intrade-ceo-apologizes-mubarak-departure-prediction-market-scandal-mubarak-market-unwound/">Carl Wolfenden is an incompetent</a>, and all the economists advertising InTrade on their blogs and in the media are corrupted as they are dependent, for their <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/07/28/have-robin-hanson-justin-wolfers-and-james-surowiecki-been-exaggerating-the-usefulness-of-the-prediction-markets-survey-result/">research</a>, on the trading data, which are handed out only to the lauding ones.</strong></p>
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		<title>Post-Delaney InTrade experiences turmoil related to the debt ceiling prediction market. &#8212; [CHART + LINK]</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[37 pages (!!) on the InTrade message board. Once again, one can question the professionalism of the InTrade execs and the usefulness of the prediction markets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=749123"><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/debt-ceiling-aug2011.png" alt="" title="debt-ceiling-aug2011" width="780" height="311" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-26208" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/540/4855.page">37 pages</a> (!!) on the InTrade <a href="http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/4855.page">message board</a>.</p>
<p>Once again, one can question the professionalism of the InTrade execs and <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/07/28/have-robin-hanson-justin-wolfers-and-james-surowiecki-been-exaggerating-the-usefulness-of-the-prediction-markets-survey-result/">the usefulness of the prediction markets</a>.</p>
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		<title>When you die, ask David Pennock to write up your obituary. &#8212; [LINK]</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Farewell to John Delaney.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2011/08/01/john-delaney-death/">Farewell to John Delaney</a>.</p>
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