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		<title>After years of pretending being a prediction market consultant, Robin Hanson finally confesses nobody has ever cared about his stuff. &#8212; [LINK]</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/07/13/enterprise-prediction-markets-robin-hanson/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Emperor of enterprise prediction markets is naked. Robin Hanson: I can confirm that this disinterest is real. For example, when I try to sell firms on internal prediction markets wherein employees forecast things like sales and project completion dates, &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/07/13/enterprise-prediction-markets-robin-hanson/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Emperor of enterprise prediction markets is naked.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/The-Pied-Piper-leads-the-children-out-of-Hamelin-1024x828.jpg" alt="" title="The Pied Piper leads the children out of Hamelin" width="640" height="517" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-25800" /></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-unbound.org/2011/07/13/robin-hanson/who-cares-about-forecast-accuracy/">Robin Hanson</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>I can confirm that this disinterest is real.</strong> For example, when I try to sell firms on internal prediction markets wherein employees forecast things like sales and project completion dates, such firms usually don’t doubt my claims that such forecasts are cheap and more accurate. <strong>Nevertheless, they usually aren’t interested.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-unbound.org/2011/07/11/dan-gardner-and-philip-tetlock/overcoming-our-aversion-to-acknowledging-our-ignorance/">The other take about forecast accuracy</a>.</p>
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		<title>Technology Review publishes an uncritical article on collective forecasting used in business. &#8211; {CrowdCast}</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/12/09/technology-review-enterprise-prediction-markets-crowdcast/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How Bets Among Employees Can Guide a Company&#8217;s Future &#8211; Internal prediction markets enable colleagues to wager on the fate of crucial projects and the success of products in the pipeline. &#8211; Technology Review]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.technologyreview.com/business/26800/?p1=BI">How Bets Among Employees Can Guide a Company&#8217;s Future</a> &#8211; Internal prediction markets enable colleagues to wager on the fate of crucial projects and the success of products in the pipeline. &#8211; Technology Review</p>
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		<title>If prediction markets are such a powerful tool, then why aren&#8217;t we able to use them to solve [INSERT YOUR FAVORITE WORLD PROBLEM HERE]?</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/09/21/prediction-markets-solving-world-problems/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin Wolfers is asked the question, but I would have a different answer than his. The reason prediction markets are not widely used in business is that their many boosters (Robin Hanson, James Surowiecki, Justin Wolfers, etc.) have exaggerated their &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/09/21/prediction-markets-solving-world-problems/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2010/09/justin-wolfers-on-trade-across-the-disciplines.html">Justin Wolfers is asked the question</a>, but I would have a different answer than his.</p>
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<p>The reason prediction markets are not widely used in business is that their many <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/08/prediction_mark.html">boosters</a> (Robin Hanson, James Surowiecki, Justin Wolfers, etc.) have exaggerated their usefulness. <strong>Just because they are objective in their wisdom does not mean that they are very useful.</strong></p>
<p>Objectivity is over-rated. This is a painful lesson for the handful of <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/predictions/software/">young startups</a> who swallowed the prediction market myth. Next step: the <a href="http://techcrunch.com/tag/deadpool/">dead pool</a>.</p>
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		<title>Prediction Markets = Social Business Intelligence</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/07/27/prediction-markets-collective-intelligence-collective-forecasting-social-business-intelligence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article about CrowdCast.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.information-age.com/channels/management-and-skills/features/1268333/collective-intelligence.thtml">Good article about CrowdCast</a>.</p>
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		<title>CrowdCast&#8217;s Leslie Fine talks about &#8220;the cloud and the crowd&#8221;.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/07/10/crowdcast-leslie-fine-enterprise-intelligence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2He3LtysIY#t=22m30s">22 into</a>.</strong></p>
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		<title>MAT FOGARTY FOR PRESIDENT</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/25/matt-fogarty-crowdcast-collective-forecasting/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<title>CrowdCast + SAP</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/16/crowdcast-sap-business-objects-prediction-markets/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<title>Truth in Advertising &#8211; Meet Prediction Markets</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hewitt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most published papers on prediction markets (there aren&#8217;t many) paint a wildly rosy picture of their accuracy. Perhaps it is because many of these papers are written by researchers having affiliations with prediction market vendors. Robin Hanson is Chief Scientist &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/03/14/truth-in-advertising-meet-prediction-markets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most published papers on prediction markets (there aren&#8217;t many) paint a wildly rosy picture of their accuracy. Perhaps it is because many of these papers are written by researchers having affiliations with prediction market vendors.</p>
<p><strong><em>Robin Hanson</em></strong> is Chief Scientist at <strong><a title="Robin Hanson - Consensus Point" href="http://www.consensuspoint.com/about/leadership-team/robin-hanson/" target="_blank">Consensus Point</a></strong>. I like his ideas about combinatorial markets and market scoring rules, but I think he over-sells the accuracy and usefulness of prediction markets. His concept of Futarchy is an extreme example of this. Robin loves to cite HP&#8217;s prediction markets in his presentations. <em><strong>Emile Servan-Schreiber</strong></em> (<strong><a title="NewsFutures" href="http://www.newsfutures.com/www/about.html" target="_blank">Newsfutures</a></strong>) is mostly level-headed but still a big fan of prediction markets. <strong><a title="Crowdcast Leadership" href="http://crowdcast.com/about/leadership/" target="_blank">Crowdcast&#8217;s</a></strong> Chief Scientist is <em><strong>Leslie Fine;</strong></em> their Board of Advisors includes <em><strong>Justin Wolfers</strong></em> and <em><strong>Andrew McAfee</strong></em>. Leslie seems to have a more practical understanding than most, as evidenced by this response to the types of questions that Crowdcast&#8217;s prediction markets can answer well: &#8220;Questions whose outcomes will be knowable in three months to a year and where there is very dispersed knowledge in your organization tend to do well.&#8221; She gets it that prediction markets aren&#8217;t all things to all people.</p>
<p><strong><em>An Honest Paper</em></strong></p>
<p>To some extent, all of the researchers over-sell the accuracy and the range of useful questions that may be answered by prediction markets. So, it is refreshing to find an honest article written about the accuracy of prediction markets. Not too long ago, Sharad Goel, Daniel M. Reeves, Duncan J. Watts, <strong><em>David M. Pennock</em></strong> published <strong><a title="Prediction Without Markets" href="http://www.cam.cornell.edu/~sharad/papers/pred-wo-markets.pdf" target="_blank">Prediction Without Markets</a></strong>. They compared prediction markets with alternative forecasting methods for three types of public prediction markets: Football and baseball games and movie box office receipts.</p>
<p>They found that prediction markets were just <em><strong>slightly</strong></em> more accurate than alternative methods of forecasting. As an added bonus, these researchers considered the issue that prediction market accuracy should be judged by its effect on decision-making. So few researchers have done this! A very small improvement in accuracy is not considered <em><strong>material</strong></em> (significant), if it doesn&#8217;t change the decision that is made with the forecast. It&#8217;s a well-established concept in public auditing, when deciding whether an error is significant and requires correction. I have discussed this concept <strong><a title="The Essential Prerequisite" href="http://torontopm.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/the-essential-prerequisite-for-adopting-prediction-markets/" target="_blank">before</a></strong>.</p>
<p>While they acknowledge that prediction markets may have a distinct advantage over other forecasting methods, in that they can be updated much more quickly and at little additional cost, they rightly suggest that most business applications have <em><strong>little need</strong></em> for instantaneously updated forecasts. Overall, they conclude that &#8220;simple methods of aggregating individual forecasts often work reasonably well relative to more complex combinations (of methods).&#8221;</p>
<p><strong><em>For Extra Credit</em></strong></p>
<p>When we compare things, it is usually so that we can select the best option. In the case of prediction markets it is <em><strong>not</strong></em> a safe assumption that the choices are mutually exclusive. Especially in enterprise applications, prediction markets are <strong><em>heavily</em></strong> <em><strong>dependent</strong></em> on the alternative information aggregation methods as a primary source of market information. Of course, there are other sources of information and the markets are expected to minimize bias to generate more accurate predictions.</p>
<p>In the infamous <strong><a title="HP Analysis" href="http://torontopm.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/an-analysis-of-hps-real-prediction-markets/" target="_blank">HP prediction markets</a></strong>, the forecasts were eerily close to the company&#8217;s internal forecasts. It wasn&#8217;t difficult to see why. The <em><strong>same</strong></em> people were involved with both predictions! The <a title="Prediction Market Success is Elusive" href="http://torontopm.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/corporate-prediction-market-success-is-elusive/" target="_blank"><strong>General Mills</strong> </a>prediction markets showed similar correlations, even when only some of the participants were common to both methods. The implication of these cases is that you cannot <strong><em>replace</em></strong> the existing forecasting system with a prediction market and expect the results to be as accurate. The two (or more) methods work together.</p>
<p>Not only do most researchers (Pennock et al, <em><strong>excepted</strong></em>) recommend adoption of prediction markets, based on <strong><em>insignificant</em></strong> improvements in accuracy, they fail to consider the effect (or lack thereof) on decision-making in their cost/benefit analysis. Even if some do the cost/benefit math, they don&#8217;t do it right.</p>
<p>Where a prediction market is dependent on other forecasting methods, the marginal cost is the <strong><em>total</em></strong> cost of running the market. There is <em><strong>no credit</strong></em> for eliminating the cost of alternative forecasting methods. The marginal benefit is that <strong><em>expected</em></strong> by choosing a <em><strong>different</strong></em> course of action than the one that would have been taken based on a less accurate prediction. That is, a slight improvement in prediction accuracy that does <em><strong>not</strong></em> change the course of action has <em><strong>no</strong></em> marginal benefit.</p>
<p>Using this approach, a prediction market that is only &#8220;slightly&#8221; more accurate, than those from alternative forecasting approaches, is <strong><em>just not good enough</em></strong>. So far, there is little, if any, evidence that prediction markets are anything more than &#8220;slightly&#8221; better than existing methods. Still, most of our respected researchers continue to tout prediction markets. Even a technology guru like <strong><a title="Mobs Rule - Andrew McAfee" href="http://andrewmcafee.org/2009/07/mobs-rule/" target="_blank">Andrew McAfee doesn&#8217;t get it </a></strong>, in this little PR piece he wrote, shortly after joining Crowdcast&#8217;s Board of Advisors.</p>
<p>Is it a big snow job or just wishful thinking?</p>
<p>[Cross-posted from <a title="Truth in Advertising - Meet Prediction Markets" href="http://torontopm.wordpress.com/2010/03/14/truth-in-advertising-meet-prediction-market/" target="_blank">Toronto Prediction Market Blog</a>]</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 90px;">Business leaders rely on metrics and data to inform decisions around new products and opportunities, but traditional forecasting methods suffer from bias and lack of first-hand information. Thatâ€™s why business forecasting is an ideal target for the application of crowd wisdom.  While bets are made anonymously, some prediction market software applications have built-in reward systems for accurate forecasters. And the accuracy of prediction markets over traditional forecasting methods is proven again and again. [...] <strong>Prediction markets will then aggregate this knowledge to produce actionable, people-powered forecasts. The result is an ultra-rich information source that will lay the foundation for smarter, better-informed company decisions.</strong> [...]</p>
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