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		<title>BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets &#8212; CFM&#8217;s Views</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[GOOD NEWS: BetFair-TradeFair are minding the prediction markets. BAD NEWS: There is a bunch of chaps at BetFair who are monkeying around with the concept of prediction markets. &#8212; THEIR INTENT IS NOBLE. Mark Davies, Betfairâ€™s Managing Director Corporate Affairs, &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/29/betfair%e2%80%99s-global-warming-prediction-markets-cfms-views/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOD NEWS: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/21/betfair-embrace-decision-markets/" title="BetFairâ€™s Global Warming prediction markets">BetFair-TradeFair are minding the prediction markets</a>.</p>
<p>BAD NEWS: There is a bunch of chaps at BetFair who are monkeying around with the concept of prediction markets.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>THEIR INTENT IS NOBLE.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/263/759" title="Mark Davies's LinkedIn profile">Mark Davies</a>, Betfairâ€™s Managing Director Corporate Affairs, <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/22/betfairs-global-warming-prediction-markets/" title="BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Whilst these climate markets are experimental, they demonstrate <strong>a commitment to use our assets to <em>innovate and make a difference</em>.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>If sincere (as I take it), then their statement may have been inspired by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_no_man_has_gone_before" title="Where no man has gone before">the mission statement of the original starship <em>Enterprise</em></a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship <em>Enterprise</em>. Its five-year mission: To explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go <em>where no man has gone before</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>IMPACT OF <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/22/betfairs-global-warming-prediction-markets/" title="BetFairâ€™s Global Warming Prediction Markets">THEIR PRESS RELEASE</a> </strong></p>
<p>So far, <a href="http://news.google.com/news?svnum=10&amp;as_scoring=d&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=BetFair+climate&amp;btnG=Search" title="Google News Search">8 days after their P.R. output</a>, <strong><a href="http://www.smartplanet.com/news/leisure/10000239/now-you-can-literally-bet-on-climate-change.htm" title="Now you can literally bet on climate change">only 2 web publications took the bait</a>.</strong> [UPDATE: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/04/only-7-web-publications-took-the-betfair-bait-on-global-warming/" title="Only 7 web publications took the BetFair bait on global warming.">7</a>.] Does not strike me as an intergalactic success.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>ANALYSIS OF THEIR GLOBAL WARMING PREDICTION MARKETS</strong></p>
<p>#1. Their choice of the term &#8220;decision markets&#8221; is not appropriate, here.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Decision markets</strong> are conditional prediction markets intended (by some idealists) to be used as a decision-making tool replacing human decision makers.</li>
<li><strong>Decision-aid markets</strong> are conditional prediction markets intended to be used as a decision-aid tool advising human decision makers.</li>
<li><strong>Prediction markets</strong> are markets for contracts that yield payments based on the outcome of a partially uncertain future event. That&#8217;s what those <a href="http://lite.betfair.com/Events.do?s=00010915899335z" title="BetFair Lite">BetFair climate markets</a> are, actually.</li>
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<p>#2. Their intended <em>clientÃ¨le</em> is imaginary. Their press release said:</p>
<blockquote><p>This is the ideal place <strong>for experts, academics, businesses and interested parties</strong> to put money behind their views on long-range forecasts.</p></blockquote>
<p>The thinking that socially valuable prediction markets (long-term, or not) are <em>for the deep thinkers and the decision-makers</em> is the most common mistake I see among the wannabes in our field. The prospects for any event derivatives are always of the same two species: <strong>the casual bettors and the sophisticated traders. </strong>(Beware of the economists who propose those markets; <a href="http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/the-nobel-prize-in-economics/" title="See his 4th point">they don&#8217;t trade, wrote Steve Levitt of <em>Freakonomics</em>.</a>)</p>
<p>#3. Out of their <strong>3</strong> event derivatives on global warming (<a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687712&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL" title="HSBC Climate Index">HSBC Investable Climate Change Index</a>, <a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687711&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL" title="Carbon Futures">ECX CFI Futures Contract</a>, and <a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687710&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL" title="BetFair">Highest</a> and <a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687709&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL">Lowest</a> UK Temperature), the first two, at least, are <strong>flawed products.</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Absence of advanced indicators</strong> that the market makers can follow to inform their trades;</li>
<li><strong>Absence of polarizing subjectivity</strong> prompting the casual bettors and lite traders to perform uninformed transactions.</li>
</ul>
<p>No wonder that the HSBC and ECX prediction markets have  seen no trade, so far. (As for the temperature prediction markets, only 33 US bucks have been put in there.)</p>
<p>#4. My prediction is that the first two BetFair Global Warming prediction markets (<a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687712&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL" title="HSBC Climate Index">HSBC Investable Climate Change Index</a> and <a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687711&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL" title="Carbon Futures">ECX CFI Futures Contract</a>) <strong>will fail miserably.</strong></p>
<p>#5. MY CONCLUSIONS:</p>
<ul>
<li>From the above, it seems that BetFair are aware, internally, that they should aim at the elites who value the prediction markets.</li>
<li>They did not hire the best, or did not assign the best to this problematic.</li>
<li>There is a wall between <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/28/slate-publishes-a-betfair-explainer-for-the-americans/" title="Slate publishes a BetFair explainer for the Americans.">BetFair&#8217;s betting exchange approach</a> and our prediction market approach (adopted by <a href="http://www.intrade.com/v2/" title="InTrade">InTrade</a>). This wall should be torn down &#8212;for the good of both parties.</li>
<li>BetFair shall complement their traditional marketing with our prediction market branding. The only way is to <strong>focus on the prediction market science and the people who produce it</strong> &#8212;our good friends the US-based economists (like <a href="http://dfd.dartmouth.edu/directory/show/413" title="Eric Zitzewitz">Eric Zitzewitz</a> et al.).</li>
</ul>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>APPENDIX</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hsbc.com.hk/1/PA_1_3_S5/content/cr/common/pdf/Climate%20Change%20Benchmark%20Index_Full%20report.pdf" title="HSBC">HSBC Investable Climate Change Index &#8211; PDF file</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.europeanclimateexchange.com/" title="European Climate Exchange">European Climate Exchange</a></p>
<p>BetFair&#8217;s Global Warming prediction markets: <a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687712&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL" title="HSBC Climate Index">HSBC Investable Climate Change Index</a>, <a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687711&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL" title="Carbon Futures">ECX CFI Futures Contract</a>, and <a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687710&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL" title="BetFair">Highest</a> and <a href="http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20687709&amp;ex=1&amp;origin=MRL">Lowest</a> UK Temperature.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><em>NEXT</em>: <strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/30/piece-of-evidence-2-that-betfair-tradefair-are-minding-the-prediction-markets/" title="A binary bet represents the probability or percentage likelihood of an event happening.">PIECE OF EVIDENCE #2 THAT BETFAIR-TRADEFAIR ARE MINDING THE PREDICTION MARKETS.</a></strong></p>
<p><em>NEXT</em>: <strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/08/intrades-global-warming-prediction-markets-are-more-socially-interesting-than-betfairs-ones/" title="InTrade's event derivative markets on whether the worldâ€™s biggest national governments will soon agree to reduce CO2 emissions under the UNFCC treaty.">InTradeâ€™s global warming prediction markets are more socially interesting than BetFairâ€™s ones.</a></strong></p>
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		<title>I think Robin&#8217;s being too hard on himself.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#8217;s what I was told by someone who knows him [Robin Hanson] for more than just years. So I figured out I should write up a little something, especially since I saw this morning that my previous blog post (Is &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/04/18/i-think-robins-being-too-hard-on-himself/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I was told by someone who knows him [<a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/" title="Robin Hanson">Robin Hanson</a>] for more than just years.</p>
<p>So I figured out I should write up a little something, especially since I saw this morning that my previous blog post (<strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/04/17/is-gmu-professor-robin-hanson-an-inventor-an-innovator-or-a-complete-loser/"><em>Is GMU professor Robin Hanson an inventor, an innovator, orâ€¦ a complete loser??</em></a></strong>) was yesterday&#8217;s most downloaded stories.</p>
<p>#1. Robin Hanson has very high expectations. (More on this in a moment.)</p>
<p>#2. Robin Hanson is a truthful person.</p>
<p>Mix the two elements together and you get a &#8220;<strong>bombastic statement</strong>&#8221; ( <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ), which surprised many people.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>Robin Hanson</strong>&#8216;s statement (yesterday):</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Iâ€™ll take credit for creating some ideas the world has found useful, but <em>I have completely failed both the market test and the academic test</em>. That is, I canâ€™t convince any business to let me join them to deliver my ideas at scale, and I canâ€™t convince any top journal to publish my ideas.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The comment was made on <a href="http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2007/04/16/invention-innovation/" title="Invention versus innovation">this <strong>Mike Linksvayer</strong>â€™s blog post</a>.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>Robin Hanson&#8217;s Big Idea on Prediction Markets:</strong></p>
<p>- &#8220;<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/02/13/decision-making-tool-vs-decision-aid-tool-decision-markets-edition/" title="Decision-making tool vs. decision-aid tool â€” Decision markets"><strong>Decision Markets</strong></a>&#8221; (<a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/decisionmarkets.pdf" title="Paper">PDF</a>): A set of <em>decisions</em> (in the form of conditional prediction markets) is traded. The decision that gets selected in the end by this complex market mechanism is the one that the organization (a corporation, a <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/futarchy.html" title="Futarchy: Vote Values, But Bet Beliefs">democracy</a>) applies to itself.</p>
<p>- I am not an academic expert, but I think that his &#8220;decision markets&#8221; and &#8220;futarchy&#8221; papers have <strong>not</strong> been accepted by top academic journals.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>Chris Masse&#8217;s Take on Decision Markets:</strong></p>
<p>- Intrinsically, it&#8217;s all logical and a great idea.</p>
<p>- The problem is that there is <strong>no need for the decision markets. </strong>The executives and politicians like to <em>make decisions themselves</em>. With all due respect to my readers, I&#8217;ll have a graphic metaphor. Trying to sell the concept of decision markets to executives and politicians is like trying to sell very sophisticated, mechanized, high-performance dildos to young men; there is <strong>no need</strong> for that in the market. For some mysterious reason, the young men insist on performing &#8220;that&#8221;&#8230; using <em>their own instrument</em>. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p><strong>Robin Hanson, in <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/" title="Prediction Markets Timeline">the prediction markets timeline</a>:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>a) <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/" title="Robin Hanson">Robin Hanson</a> set up and run a rudimentary prediction exchange (a market board, <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/ppt/MarketBoard.ppt" title="Market Board">PPT file</a>) in January 24, 1989. The outcome to predict was the name of the winner of a Poker party.</p>
<p>b) Until evidence of the contrary, it seems that Robin Hanson was <strong>the first to set up and run a corporate prediction exchange</strong> â€”at Xanadu, Inc., in April 1989. See: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2006/11/23/a-1990-corporate-prediction-market/" title="A 1990 Corporate Prediction Market">A 1990 Corporate Prediction Market</a> + <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/02/10/anonymity-is-important-for-employees-trading-on-internal-prediction-markets/" title="Anonymity is important for employees trading on internal prediction markets.">Anonymity is important for employees trading on internal prediction markets.</a></p>
<p>Robin Hanson: â€œI started a market at Xanadu on cold fusion in April 1989. In May 1990, I started a market there on whether their product would be delivered before Deng died.â€<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/02/10/anonymity-is-important-for-employees-trading-on-internal-prediction-markets/" title="Anonymity is important for employees trading on internal prediction markets."><br />
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<p>c) Until evidence of the contrary, it seems that Robin Hanson was <strong>the first to set up and run a bunch of imagination-based prediction markets</strong> (what Chris Masse class the &#8220;X Universes&#8221;) â€”See the <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2006/11/06/prediction-markets-friend-barney-pell-is-involved-in-the-next-google-powerset/" title="Murder Mystery Evening described by Barney Pell">Murder Mystery Evening described by Barney Pell</a> â€”circa June 8, 1989. Hereâ€™s Robin Hansonâ€™s design of a non-electronic, rudimentary prediction exchange: Market Board &#8211; <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/ppt/MarketBoard.ppt" title="Market Board">PPT file</a>.</p>
<p>d) Until evidence of the contrary, it seems that Robin Hanson was <strong>the first to write a paper on prediction markets</strong> created and existing primarily because of the information in their prices (as opposed to markets created primarily for speculation and hedging).</p>
<p><a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/gamble.html" title="Could Gambling Save Science?">Could Gambling Save Science?</a> &#8211; (<a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/gamble-reply.html" title="Comments">Reply to Comments</a>) &#8211; by Robin Hanson &#8211; 1990-07-00<br />
<a href="http://www.islandone.org/Foresight/Updates/Update10/Update10.1.html#anchor2224246" title="Market-Based Foresight: a Proposal">Market-Based Foresight: a Proposal</a> &#8211; by Robin Hanson &#8211; 1990-10-30<br />
<a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/ifextropy.html" title="Idea Futures: Encouraging an Honest Consensus">Idea Futures: Encouraging an Honest Consensus</a> &#8211; (<a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/ifextropy.pdf" title="Paper">PDF</a>) &#8211; by Robin Hanson &#8211; 1992-11-00</p>
<p>e) Robin Hanson godfathered the <a href="http://www.ideosphere.com/" title="Foresight Exchange">Foresight Exchange</a> (created in 1994) and <a href="http://us.newsfutures.com/" title="NewsFutures">NewsFutures</a> (created in 2000).</p>
<p>f) Robin Hanson invented the (debatable) concept of decision markets (<a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/decisionmarkets.pdf" title="Decision Markets">PDF</a>) â€”a decision-aid tool and/or decision-making tool (one application: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2006/10/13/robin-hanson-brings-his-decision-markets-concept-a-bit-further/" title="On My Mind - Youâ€™re Fired! - Shareholders ought to decide.">firing CEOs</a>).</p>
<p>g) Robin Hanson invented a new market design, the <a href="http://www.chrisfmasse.com/3/3/" title="Designs">Market Scoring Rules</a>, a mix between CDA and Scoring Rules â€”now in use at <a href="http://www.inklingmarkets.com/" title="Inkling Markets">Inkling Markets</a>, <a href="http://www.thewsx.com/" title="Washington Stock Exchange">Washington Stock Exchange</a>, and MicroSoft Research.</p>
<p>h) For more information, see <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2006/11/21/prediction-markets-definitions/" title="Prediction Markets Definitions">Robin Hansonâ€™s classification of markets</a>.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Overall, Robin Hanson&#8217;s problem is that he did bet the farm on &#8220;decision markets&#8221;, which is a good idea with no market for it.</p>
<p>Among others, <strong>I am very bullish on <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/" title="X Groups &amp; X Universes">the imagination-based prediction markets (the &#8220;X Universes&#8221;)</a>, which Robin Hanson invented</strong>, and <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/04/17/is-gmu-professor-robin-hanson-an-inventor-an-innovator-or-a-complete-loser/" title="Is GMU professor Robin Hanson an inventor, an innovator, orâ€¦ a complete loser??">which Mike Linksvayer rates as &#8220;moronic&#8221;.</a> <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Decision-Making Tool vs. Decision-Aid Tool &#8212; Decision Markets Edition</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[#1. Decision-Making Tool &#8211; Decision markets are conditional prediction markets intended (by some idealists) to be used as a decision-making tool replacing human decision makers. #2. Decision-Aid Tool &#8211; Decision markets are conditional prediction markets intended to be used as &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/02/13/decision-making-tool-vs-decision-aid-tool-decision-markets-edition/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>#1. Decision-Making Tool</strong> &#8211; Decision markets are conditional prediction markets intended (by some idealists) to be used as a decision-making tool <em>replacing</em> human decision makers.</p>
<p><strong>#2. Decision-Aid Tool</strong> &#8211; Decision markets are conditional prediction markets intended to be used as a decision-aid tool <em>advising</em> human decision makers.</p>
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<p>Am I nailing well the <a title="Robin Hanson" href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/">Robin Hanson</a> ambiguity here?? It seems to me that in his papers (Decision Markets &#8211; Futurarchy), he is in case #1. At other times, I spotted him in case #2. (((I need to take another look at his slides and talks to be sure he was in case #1, as I thought at the time.)))</p>
<p><strong><em>My Take</em>:</strong> Case #1 will never happen. Complete B.S. from libertarians intoxicated by science-fiction. For a good reason: <strong>human decision makers <em>take pleasure</em> in making decisions &#8212;they will <em>never</em> outsource decisions to a market mechanism.</strong> Give me a break. Waste of time to listen to that stuff. Case #2 is interesting&#8212;although it requires faith in markets. I wonder how many decades or centuries will pass before we see a bunch of bold CEOs testing conditional prediction markets as a decision-aid tool. You&#8217;ll notice with me that they aren&#8217;t many conditional prediction markets, out there, these days, on the public prediction exchanges (betting exchanges). Is it because the traders are not interested (as I was told) or because the public exchange managers lack interest in research (as one might suspect)?</p>
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