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		<title>CFTC Oversight May Not be a Boon.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 19:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hibbert</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to quibble with one of Dave Pennock&#8217;s comments on the CFTC request. Pennock wrote &#8220;It&#8217;s not often that an industry in its infancy cries out for more government oversight.&#8221; It&#8217;s actually quite common. The term in the economics &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/03/6803/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to quibble with one of Dave Pennock&#8217;s <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2008/05/02/a-historic-mayday-the-us-governments-call-for-help-on-regulating-prediction-markets/">comments</a> on the CFTC request.  <strong>Pennock wrote &#8220;It&#8217;s not often that an industry in its infancy cries out for more government oversight.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually quite common.  The term in the economics literature that includes this is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture">regulatory capture</a>.  When there&#8217;s a regulatory body specific to a particular industry, it&#8217;s very common for industry to be the major source of expertise in the area, and so for the regulators to be reasonably friendly with the businesses.  The businesses can work for regulation that limits entry, and cuts down on competition that reduces profits, and they can work together to ensure that public relations problems are addressed in a cohesive way.  But cutting down on competition often means fewer choices for consumers by way of tighter controls on what products are offered.</p>
<p>In our case, <strong>the thing I worry about is a narrow ruling that only &#8220;socially valuable&#8221; questions can be asked, and an expensive process for deciding what innovative questions can be posed.</strong> It seems likely that some interests will work to ensure that sports and entertainment questions be declared off-limits. The companies that have the strongest interest in fighting that faction are mostly persona non grata in the CFTC&#8217;s eyes, since they currently operate outside the law (<a href="http://tradesports.com">TradeSports</a>) or outside the country (<a href="http://betfair.com/">BetFair</a>).</p>
<p>The narrower the set of approved questions, or the more expensive the process of getting approval, the less chance that markets will be commercially successful.  I think the experiments within companies have indicated (though not proven) that a mix of valuable and popular claims is necessary in order to attract continuing participation.</p>
<p>My biggest worry about fighting for CFTC regulation at this point is that they&#8217;ll approve something narrow, and this won&#8217;t produce enough successes to demonstrate that loosening the restrictions over time would be beneficial.  <strong>The alternative is to continue to find ways to introduce markets under the radar and demonstrate their value to the academic audience, which could lead to a friendlier hearing in a more distant future after prediction markets have demonstrated social value and little risk of harm.</strong></p>
<p>Of course the other likely outcome is that the novel experiments don&#8217;t happen because of the threat of litigation or regulation.  But that seems unlikely given the growth in internal markets within companies.  <strong>I think there&#8217;s more likelihood of long-term success without regulation than with it, and we&#8217;re better off waiting until the chances that the regulations will provide a broad approval are significantly higher.</strong></p>
<p>(Cross-posted from <a href="http://pancrit.org/2008/05/cftc-requests-input-on-regulating.html">pancrit.org</a>.)</p>
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		<title>BetFair&#8217;s brand-new matching-bet logic is endorsed by the Chairman of the Midas Oracle Advisory Board.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- The Sporting Exchange executives and shareholders will be happy to know that economist Michael Giberson has given his stamp of approval to BetFair&#8217;s brand-new matching-bet logic. Wow. They&#8217;ll open Champagne bottles in HammerSmith, tonite, when they know that. If &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/14/betair-matching-bets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>The Sporting Exchange executives and shareholders will be happy to know that <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/13/betfair-trading/#comment-17432">economist Michael Giberson has given his stamp of approval</a> to <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/13/betfair-trading/" title="BetFair changes the logic of its bet matching.">BetFair&#8217;s brand-new matching-bet logic</a>. Wow. They&#8217;ll open Champagne bottles in HammerSmith, tonite, when they know that. If that&#8217;s not <em>an ebullient endorsement</em>, then I&#8217;m the Queen of England.</p>
<blockquote><p>From the description you quote <strong>[*]</strong>, it sounds as if BetFair is using a technique similar to that explained by Chris Hibbert in &#8220;<a href="http://www.commerce.net/blog/?post=/2006/07/191520.b1a59b315fc9a3002ce38bbe070ec3f5.html">Increasing Liquidity in Multi-Outcome Claims</a>.&#8221; (For more, see Hibbertâ€™s &#8220;<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/09/10/market-makers-for-multi-outcome-markets/">Market Makers for Multi Outcome Markets</a>&#8221; and Dave Pennockâ€™s &#8220;<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/02/19/the-right-way-to-implement-a-multi-outcome-prediction-market-linear-programming/">Right Way to Implement a Multi-Outcome Market</a>.&#8221;)  <strong>If theyâ€™ve done something like this, it should make their markets work more efficiently.</strong>  Personally, Iâ€™m not sure why theyâ€™d privilege the traditional back vs. lay if there were a more complicated match that offered a better price, but <strong>it is a start in a good direction.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>[*] I quoted it fully. And they said they&#8217;ll come out with a Q&amp;A, later on.</p>
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<p>UPDATE: See Ed Murray&#8217;s comment&#8230;</p>
<p>I have spotted 2 BetFair forum threads&#8230; <a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=32&amp;forumName=General+Betting&amp;threadID=1430767&amp;tName=Statement+from+GC+regarding+Bet+Matching&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=87">#1</a>&#8230; <a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=32&amp;forumName=General+Betting&amp;threadID=1430179&amp;tName=DRAFT+SUMMARY%3A+cross+matching+by+betfair&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=22">#2</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Pennock &amp; Sami on &#8220;Computational aspects of prediction markets&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hibbert</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Pennock and Rahul Sami have written a book chapter on Computational Aspects of Prediction Markets. It focuses on computability and complexity issues in markets that handle combination, conditional and compound orders. The article talks about the costs for the &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/09/19/computationalaspects/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Pennock and Rahul Sami have written a book chapter on <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2007/09/17/computational-aspects-of-prediction-markets-book-chapter-and-extended-bibliography/" title=" Computational aspects of prediction markets: Book chapter and extended bibliography">Computational Aspects of Prediction Markets</a>.  It focuses on computability and complexity issues in markets that handle combination, conditional and compound orders.  The article talks about the costs for the auctioneer, and presents the Logarithmic Market Scoring Rule and the Dynamic Parimutuel Auction as two feasible approaches to offering combination or compound markets.</p>
<p>The article is written for (and probably only accessible to) people who understand the language of computability and complexity theory.  It does review the economic principles underlying prediction market mechanisms beyond call auctions and the double auction, but only sufficiently to introduce them to Computer Science people who are new to this application area.</p>
<p>The chapter closes with a list of open questions, and I&#8217;d like to highlight a couple of them:</p>
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<li>&#8220;Are there less expressive bidding languages that admit polynomial matching algorithms yet are still practically useful and interesting?&#8221;  <strong>If someone can find a feasible mechanism that supports an interesting subset of a complete combinatorial or conditional claims, we could run markets that provide answers to much more interesting questions.</strong></li>
<li>The idea of <a href="http://dpennock.com/papers/chen-ec-2007-betting-on-permutations.pdf">betting on outcome permutations</a> is intriguing. (Apparently I missed this paper <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/06/30/the-second-workshop-on-prediction-markets/" title="The Second Workshop on Prediction Markets">at the recent conference in San Diego</a>.)</li>
<li>&#8220;What is the complexity of finding a match between a single new order and a set of old orders known to have no matches among them?&#8221;  I&#8217;m more interested in finding cheap solutions or new ways to pose the problem that are more tractable, but determining the complexity is the first step in the crowd Sami and Pennock are talking to.</li>
<li>&#8220;The model in Section 1.5 directly assumes that agents bid truthfully. Is there a tractable model that assumes only rationality and solves for the resulting game-theoretic solution strategy?&#8221;  <strong>Wouldn&#8217;t  proving incentive compatibility be sufficient to establish that rational agents would bid truthfully?</strong>  I expect LMSR to be incentive compatible, though I don&#8217;t know how hard the proof is.  I have a vaguer feeling that the Dynamic Parimutuel might also be incentive compatible, though I think the fact that the price isn&#8217;t directly a probability makes the link more tenuous.</li>
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<p>I hope the inclusion of this chapter in what appears to be a broad work on computability, efficiency, and algorithm design in games, negotiations, markets, and networks will lead to new ideas that will expand the set of alternative market designs we can make use of.  (I have linked to the chapter above; if you want to download the whole book, <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2007/09/17/computational-aspects-of-prediction-markets-book-chapter-and-extended-bibliography/" title="Computational Aspects of Prediction Markets">Pennock&#8217;s blog</a> contains the password that you&#8217;ll need.)</p>
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		<title>The Wisdom Of Crowds: James Surowiecki on the predictive accuracy of the horse race betting markets</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[With your permission ( ), I am re-publishing here in one blog post the two comments from James Surowiecki, so the Midas Oracle readers who don&#8217;t subscribe to comments can see it. [...] The crowd of bettors at the racetrack &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/04/25/the-wisdom-of-crowds-james-surowiecki-on-the-predictive-accuracy-of-the-horse-race-betting-markets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With your permission ( <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ), I am re-publishing here in one blog post <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/04/24/europes-foremost-betting-industry-analyst-got-a-beating-from-the-wisdom-of-crowds-james-surowiecki-and-john-de-palma/" title="Europeâ€™s foremost betting industry analyst gets a beating from The Wisdom Of Crowdsâ€™ James Surowiecki and John De Palma.">the two comments from James Surowiecki</a>, so the Midas Oracle readers who don&#8217;t subscribe to comments can see it.</p>
<blockquote><p>[...] The crowd of bettors at the racetrack is not predicting which horse will win. Itâ€™s predicting the odds of each horse in the race winning â€” in other words, if a horse goes off at 2-to-1 odds, the crowd is predicting that the horse will win about a third of the time. So if you want to measure the accuracy of the crowd of bettors, what you want to measure is <strong>how well the crowdâ€™s probabilistic forecasts map onto actual outcomes over, say, the course of an entire season.</strong></p>
<p><strong>When you do that, what you find is that racetrack bettors are uncannily good at predicting the odds of horses winning.</strong> <em>With the exception of a small longshot bias</em>, the crowdâ€™s pre-race probabilities predict almost perfectly how likely horses are to win.</p>
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<p>Itâ€™s simply not true that the crowd doesnâ€™t care about subjective probabilities, since itâ€™s those probabilities (that is, the odds) that determine how much you get paid if your horse wins. <strong>People want to bet on horses that have a better chance of winning than the odds predict: that is, to state the obvious, the only chance of making money over time. More to the point, when weâ€™re evaluating the wisdom of crowds, itâ€™s not the performance of the individuals in the crowd that matters â€” itâ€™s what happens when you aggregate all of those individual judgments thatâ€™s interesting.</strong></p>
<p>As for the idea that informed traders are solely responsible for the accuracy of betting odds, that cannot explain what happens in parimutuel markets â€” which is how horse-racing odds are determined in the U.S. Obviously, the more informed traders are, the better. But in a pari-mutuel market, every single bet (informed or otherwise) thatâ€™s placed affects the final odds. So if you exclude, say, the suckers, then you almost certainly change the final odds. Yet we know that those odds are remarkably accurate. Itâ€™s possible that if allowed only the crowd of informed traders to bet, the odds would improve. But youâ€™d have to be confident in your ability to identify them beforehand â€” no easy feat â€” and in any case the room for improvement is very small. <em><a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/" title="David Pennock's blog">Dave Pennock</a> [and <a href="http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/dreeves/" title="Daniel Reeves">Daniel Reeves</a>]â€™s <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2007/01/04/the-wisdom-of-the-probabilitysports-crowd/" title=" The wisdom of the ProbabilitySports crowd">work</a> on <a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/02/how_and_when_to.html" title="How and When to Listen to the Crowd">probability averaging is relevant</a> in <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/01/19/does-wisdom-require-markets/" title="Does wisdom require markets?">this regard</a></em>.</p>
<p>As for the accuracy of betting odds, I donâ€™t know about the odds â€œalwaysâ€ being close to objective probabilities. But the data in Arthur Hoerl and Herbert Fallin, â€œ<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;domains=chrisfmasse.com&amp;q=%22Reliability+of+Subjective+Evaluations+in+a+High+Incentive+Situation%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;sitesearch=" title="Google Search">Reliability of Subjective Evaluations in a High Incentive Situation</a>,â€ Journal of the Royal Statistical Society (1974) shows just how hard it is to outperform the crowd at the track, at least when the odds are set by a pari-mutuel system.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds" title="Wikipedia">James Surowiecki is the author</a> of <strong><a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/features/wisdomofcrowds/" title="Publisher's page on the book"><em>The Wisdom Of Crowds</em></a></strong> (<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/01/24/email-interview-ken-kittlitz/#comment-761">impact of the book</a>) and a financial columnist at <em><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/" title="The New Yorker">The New Yorker</a></em>. &#8211; Section: <strong><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/talk" title="The Talk Of The Town">The Talk Of The Town</a></strong> &#8211; (James Surowiecki is one of the columnists.)</p>
<p>How to subscribe to James Surowiecki&#8217;s column at <em>The New Yorker</em>:</p>
<p>Sub-Site Feed: <strong><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/services/rss/feeds/talk.xml" title="The Talk Of The Town">http://www.newyorker.com/services/rss/feeds/talk.xml</a></strong> &#8211; [Partial feed, though. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  ]<strong><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/services/rss/feeds/talk.xml" title="The Talk Of The Town"><br />
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<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://www.bettingmarket.com/" title="Betting Market .com">Niall O&#8217;Connor (of Betting Market)</a> has a kind of rebuttal with the paper citations that goes with it. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  See the comment area, just below this blog post.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[After people have used Prediction Markets for a while and have gotten used to their ability to provide forecasts, they start thinking about different scenarios. Who would be the best Republican to face Clinton? How are the prospects for a market boom or crash effected by the winner of the election? How will poverty be affected by a proposed World Bank program? These kinds of questions can be posed in a number of ways using Prediction Markets. Markets can allow betting on conditional (if) or conjunctive (and) questions. Either one can be used to answer the what if questions, but they provide different choices to the bettors, and some make it easier for observers to decode the answers. <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/06/conditional-and-combinatorial-betting/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After people have used Prediction Markets for a while and have gotten used to their ability to provide forecasts, they start thinking about different scenarios. Who would be the best Republican to face Clinton?  How are the prospects for a market boom or crash effected by the winner of the election?  How will poverty be affected by a proposed World Bank program?  These kinds of questions can be posed in a number of ways using Prediction Markets.  Markets can allow betting on <strong>conditional</strong> (if) or <strong>conjunctive</strong> (and) questions.  Either one can be used to answer the <strong>what if</strong> questions, but they provide different choices to the bettors, and some make it easier for observers to decode the answers.</p>
<p>The easiest compound question to pose is a simple conjunction of two others.  <a href="http://intrade.com/" title="prediction exchange">InTrade</a> had separate markets in whether Bush would be reelected in 2004 (&#8220;BUSH&#8221;), and whether Osama bin Laden (&#8220;OSAMA&#8221;) would be captured before the election.  Justin Wolfers and Eric Zitzewitz asked InTrade to add a single combined contract that would pay off if both came true.  Their paper, <a href="http://bpp.wharton.upenn.edu/jwolfers/Press/EconomistsVoice.pdf" title="Wolfers &amp; Zitzewitz paper">Experimental Political Betting Markets and the 2004 Election</a> shows how the prices on these three contracts can be combined to show how one event would be likely to effect the other.</p>
<p>InTrade created three separate claims to cover combinations of the two base questions.  They were &#8220;Bush wins election&#8221; (BUSH), &#8220;Osama is captured before the election&#8221; (OSAMA), and the combination: BUSH&amp;OSAMA which would have paid out if both the others came true.  Wolfers and Zitzewitz estimated the market&#8217;s conditional probability by comparing the price of OSAMA with the price of BUSH&amp;OSAMA.  If the price levels were rational, the difference between the two prices had to equal the chance that Osama would be captured and Bush would not be reelected.  Since the market price of BUSH&amp;OSAMA was 91% as high as the price of Osama, they concluded that that represented the conditional probability.  A weakness of this conclusion is that while investors and arbitrageurs have an incentive to ensure that the  price of BUSH is correct relative to	~BUSH, (and OSAMA with respect to ~OSAMA), there&#8217;s no bet that lets an arbitrageur exploit superior knowledge of the conditional probabilities.</p>
<p>Sometimes investors believe they know how one outcome will effect another, and want to bet directly on that linkage.  If you were confident before the election that Osama&#8217;s capture would raise the probability of Bush&#8217;s reelection to 95% (above the level the the market prices implied), having the conjunctive bets didn&#8217;t provide a bet that would have looked beneficial to you.  You might think you could buy Bush&amp;Osama (because you believe Bush&#8217;s chances are improved if Osama is captured) and sell ~Bush&amp;Osama (because this is the outcome your view says is least likely), but you&#8217;d lose both bets if Osama wasn&#8217;t captured (which is an outcome your prediction doesn&#8217;t specify.)</p>
<p>Conjunctive claims allow <strong>observers</strong> to deduce connections between claims, but since the <strong>investors</strong> aren&#8217;t directly rewarded based on the conditional probabilities, they have little incentive to ensure that the implicit conditional probabilities reflect their understanding of the connections between the outcomes.  In order to evaluate different proposals we have to look at what investors would spend up-front, and then compare the possible outcomes and how the investor&#8217;s earnings change in each situation.</p>
<p>If Bush is a 60% favorite to be re-elected, and the market thinks there&#8217;s only a 10% chance Osama will be captured before the election, the odds on the conjunctions might be:</p>
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<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>Bush reelected</td>
<td>Bush defeated</td>
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<td>Osama captured</td>
<td>.09</td>
<td>.009</td>
</tr>
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<td>Osama free</td>
<td>.5</td>
<td>.4</td>
</tr>
</table>
<p>If you think Osama&#8217;s capture would improve Bush&#8217;s prospects to 95%, what should you buy or sell?  Your prediction says that the ratio of Bush&amp;Osama to ~Bush&amp;Osama should be 19:1, but doesn&#8217;t have anything to say about Bush&amp;~Osama or ~Bush&amp;~Osama.  If you buy Bush&amp;Osama and sell ~Bush&amp;Osama, you can make the prices match your beliefs better, but you&#8217;ll lose money if Osama isn&#8217;t captured.  In order to support conditional bets directly, market operators have to find ways to allow traders to buy positions without exposing themselves to risks due to the independent cases.</p>
<p>A contract that acts like a conditional bet directly (written as  BUSH|OSAMA, pronounced  as &#8220;Bush given Osama&#8221; or &#8220;Bush conditional on Osama&#8221;)  would pay off if Bush is elected, and return your investment if Osama bin Laden isn&#8217;t captured.  That gives investors the right incentive.</p>
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<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>Bush reelected</td>
<td>Bush defeated</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Osama captured</td>
<td>Gain $1</td>
<td>Lose investment</td>
</tr>
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<td>Osama free</td>
<td>Return investment</td>
<td>Return investment</td>
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<p>In order to support betting on conditional probabilities, the bets have to be able to return the investors&#8217; money in particular cases.  I know of three detailed proposals that have this property. They are: betting on arbitrary boolean expressions, representing the complete cross-product of possible outcomes (providing a complete set of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Debreu" title="Wikipedia explanation">Arrow-Debreu securities</a>), and using the independent claim as currency for purchasing the dependent claim.  There are two additional suggestions that might work, but haven&#8217;t been written down in sufficient detail to be sure.</p>
<p>Robin described and implemented <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/combobet.pdf" title="Hanson's paper">Combinatorial Information Markets</a> which represent probabilities and traders assets explicitly for all possible combinations of outcomes.  Fortnow, Kilian, Pennock, and Wellman described how you might try to support <a href="http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/%7Ejkilian/collected-papers/FoKiPeWe03.pdf" title="technical paper">bets on arbitrary boolean combinations</a> of conditions.  Their conclusion seemed to be that solving the general problem would be computationally infeasible.  They didn&#8217;t describe how to address the problems they found, but I think it&#8217;s possible that a market that supported only binary combinations could be designed. And finally, Peter McCluskey built (and released as open source) <a href="http://usifex.com/" title="defunct web site">USIFEX</a> in 1999.  It allows the user to <a href="http://usifex.com/cgi-bin/ifpublic/faqw.py?req=all#3.7" title="how do conditional claims work?">use the coupons of the independent event as the currency</a>.  This combination allows traders to express conditionals directly. Unfortunately, that system didn&#8217;t attract a user base quickly enough, and Peter stopped development soon after the initial release.</p>
<p>For an article on <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/decisionmarkets.pdf" title="Hanson (non-technical) article">Decision Markets</a> written in 1999, Robin Hanson suggested creating markets using assets that pay off in &#8220;units of A if B passes&#8221; (and &#8220;&#8230; if B doesn&#8217;t pass.&#8221;), and allow traders to trade the assets for each other.  The price of A|B in terms of B (which can be built from component assets) expresses the conditional bet.  Robin didn&#8217;t explain how to set up a market in which people trade assets for assets and didn&#8217;t describe how to let the users see how various combination bets would express the conditional claims they might have been interested in.  (This is the first of the two incomplete suggestions.)</p>
<p>Robin&#8217;s Combinatorial Information Market design uses a complex internal representation and can support arbitrary conditional bets. He built a <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/mktscore-prototype.html" title="LISP code">prototype implementation</a> that allows the user to explore these conditionals by choosing assumptions, and then adjusting probabilities in the resulting hypothetical situations.  I wrote a <a href="http://mydruthers.com/IF-code/index.html" title="Overview and E code">prototype</a> of my own in E.  Neither prototype is more than a proof-of-concept that the institution works, and neither has been operated for any general market.  The strength of this approach is that users can express conditional connections between arbitrary claims; this aspect has been shown to be <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/testcomb.pdf" title="Hanson paper">effective in a laboratory experiment</a>.  Robin ran tests of this market after he proposed its use for  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Analysis_Market" title="Wikipedia article">PAM</a>, and there were apparently no problems in running it with 6 traders estimating all outcome combinations for 8 events.  The glaring weakness is that it doesn&#8217;t scale well.  It&#8217;s not clear how to build a version that would work even with a market with dozens of questions and hundreds of users.  I&#8217;ll describe this market in more detail in a future post in this series.</p>
<p>Peter McCluskey built USIFEX in 1999.  It works quite differently and doesn&#8217;t seem to have the performance problems of the other proposals.  The primary idea for supporting conditional trading is that you <strong>buy units of A|B using units of B as currency</strong> when betting on a conditional question.  The effect is that when buying A|B, you end up with coupons of ~B as part of the purchase, and that&#8217;s what ensures you&#8217;ll be repaid if the independent event doesn&#8217;t occur. USIFEX is open source, but it hasn&#8217;t been maintained since it was released in 2000.  The code was resurrected for use in the Swiss <a href="http://marmix.unil.ch/" title="private Swiss exchange">MarMix</a> exchange, (<abbr title="As far as I can tell">AFAICT</abbr> without making any use of the conditional betting features).  The biggest weakness of Peter&#8217;s approach, as I recall, was that it would have taken a lot of users to ensure that the conditional markets weren&#8217;t extremely thin.  A longer description of USIFEX is also in the works.</p>
<p>Todd Proebsting built an implementation of the Hanson design that works without conditionals. Dave Pennock wrote up a <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2006/10/30/implementing-hansons-market-maker/" title="blog post">description of Todd&#8217;s approach</a>, focused on the Market maker.  I intend to describe the implications of Todd&#8217;s approach for betting on conditionals in a future post.  (This is the second incomplete suggestion.) I think it might be straightforward to extend Todd&#8217;s approach to support conditional betting without running into the exponential growth of Robin&#8217;s solution.  The drawback is that the market operator has to separately capitalize and enable every conditional question that you want the system to support, while Robin&#8217;s approach enables all of them by default.  It&#8217;s also possible that <a href="http://zocalo.sourceforge.net/" title="Zocalo site at SourceForge">Zocalo Open Source Prediction Market software</a> would be compatible with this approach, where it&#8217;s clear that Zocalo would require substantial modification to support the Hanson proposal.</p>
<h3>Other Articles in this series</h3>
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<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=238">PM intro: basic formats</a> (2005-12-30)</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=239">PMs with Open-ended Prices</a> (2006-01-05)</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=249">Looking at Both Sides</a> (2006-04-17)</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=251">Book and Market Maker</a> (2006-04-28)</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=261">Liquidity in N-Way claims</a> (2006-07-19)</li>
<li><a href="http://pancrit.blogspot.com/2006/09/continuous-outcomes-bands-ladders-and.html">Continuous Outcomes using Bands and Ladders</a> (2006-09-20)</li>
<li><a href="http://pancrit.blogspot.com/2007/01/integrating-book-orders-and-market.html"> Integrating Book Orders and Market Makers</a> (2007-01-10)</li>
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<p>Cross-posted from <a href="http://pancrit.blogspot.com/2007/03/conditional-and-combinatorial-betting.html" title="original article">pancrit.org.</a></p>
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		<title>Integrating Book Orders and Market Makers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hibbert</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dave Pennock gave a gentle introduction on his blog to the Market Scoring Rule invented by Robin Hanson.  In the comments, Sid asked for an explanation of how to integrate the MSR with an order book. Dave asked me privately if I'd be willing to tackle that, and this post is the result. <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/01/11/integrating-book-orders-and-market-makers/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Cross-posted from <a href="http://pancrit.blogspot.com/2007/01/integrating-book-orders-and-market.html" title="Chris Hibbert's Blog">Pancrit.org</a>.]</p>
<p>Dave Pennock gave a <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2006/10/30/implementing-hansons-market-maker">gentle introduction to the Market Scoring Rule</a> invented by Robin Hanson.  In the comments, <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2006/10/30/implementing-hansons-market-maker/#comment-324">Sid asked</a> for an explanation of how to integrate the MSR with an order book.  Dave asked me privately if I&#8217;d be willing to tackle that, and this post is the result. Robin&#8217;s <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/msrbook.pdf">short note</a> on integrating an order book and a market maker covers a lot of territory very quickly.  In Robin&#8217;s defense, it was written to clarify some ideas in the midst of a conversation we were having at the time, and hasn&#8217;t been cleaned up for publication.  I&#8217;ll expand on it here so it has a chance of making sense to others.  The paper couches things in terms of the MSR, a particular AMM, but none of the implementation depends on which AMM is used.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a working example of the integration we&#8217;re talking about in the code for Zocalo.  The code that does this is currently in transition since I&#8217;m adding support for multi-outcome markets.  For the moment, I recommend reading the code for version 375, since the current code is more complex and possibly incomplete.  You can either <a href="http://downloads.sourceforge.net/zocalo/zocalo-2006.5-src.tar.gz">download the complete source code</a> for release 2006.5 of the <a href="http://zocalo.sourceforge.net">Zocalo Prediction Market</a>, or <a href="http://zocalo.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/zocalo/?pathrev=375">browse the code directly</a> using the SVN interface.</p>
<p>The paper starts by giving a very compressed introduction to the idea of a prediction market and market maker (hereafter AMM for Automated Market Maker).  Unless you&#8217;re very familiar with the details and the formalisms that Robin uses to describe them, you&#8217;d be better off reading the original papers (<a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/mktscore.pdf">Logarithmic Market Scoring Rules</a>, <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/combobet.pdf">Combinatorial Information Market Design</a>) than trying to pick anything up from the first four paragraphs of the note.</p>
<p>The fourth paragraph slips into the idea of integrating an order book with the AMM he&#8217;s talked about to that point.   (&#8220;If instead [the AMM price resulting from buying the entire quantity is higher than the user's max marginal price], a portion [...] could be traded with the market maker, leaving a book order for the remaining quantity&#8221;).  From that point, he talks about how to integrate the two markets.</p>
<blockquote><p>If new orders get the advantage of any order price overlap</p></blockquote>
<p>In book order systems, if orders arrive asynchronously, you  will often see orders that &#8220;overlap&#8221;, <em>i.e.</em> orders to buy at a higher price than the best offer to sell, or orders to sell lower than the best offer to buy.  The system has to have policy about what price to transact at in these cases.  The system could tell each party that they got the price they requested, and pocket the difference; it could use the book order&#8217;s price or the new offer&#8217;s price; or it could split the difference in the interest of <a href="http://www.yootles.com/yootles.pdf">fairness</a>.  If any choice is made other than using the stated price of the order in the book, investors have an incentive to carefully submit bids a little at a time (aka &#8220;structure&#8221; their bids) so they won&#8217;t pay more than they have to if new orders should arrive.  Robin argued elsewhere (I can&#8217;t find the reference at the moment) that you should just transact at the book order price so that people submitting market price orders don&#8217;t waste their resources and yours on this optimization.</p>
<p>That choice also simplifies the calculation for accepting new offers.  As Robin says,  &#8220;each book order [...] imposes a constraint on the market maker price&#8221;.  The AMM should fulfill orders up to that limit, then let trade continue with the book order.  This requires a loop, in which you buy from the AMM until you reach the limit imposed by the best order(s), then trade up to the book order&#8217;s available quantity, then go back to the AMM until you reach the next book order.  You can see the approach in Zocalo&#8217;s method <a href="http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/zocalo/trunk/src/net/commerce/zocalo/market/Market.java?revision=372&amp;view=markup">Market.buyFromBothBookAndMaker(&#8230;)</a>.  (The method starts at line 237.)</p>
<p>At every step,</p>
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<li>find the remaining quantity <em>q</em> of the new order</li>
<li>find the price <em>p</em> available from the best existing order</li>
<li>if the AMM&#8217;s price is no better than the book order, trade up to <em>q</em> with the book</li>
<li>otherwise trade with the AMM to the lesser of <em>p</em> or <em>q</em></li>
</ul>
<p>The loop stops either when the new order is fulfilled or the price limit specified by the new order is reached.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the simple version for a one-dimensional AMM.  The multi-dimensional version arises if you implement the AMM as described in &#8220;Combinatorial Information Market Design&#8221;.   There are two open source implementations of this approach available for reading by hard-core hackers.  Robin built <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/mktscore-prototype.html">an implementation</a> in Lisp, and I wrote <a href="http://mydruthers.com/IF-code/index.html">a version</a> in E.  Neither is more than a demonstration of how the market engine works, since no serious user interface was written for either one.</p>
<p>Rather than attempt to explain how the approach translates to the multi-dimensional case now, I&#8217;d prefer to wait until after I write an explanation of the n-dimensional combination market, and that depends on a gentle introduction to conditional and combinatorial betting which I haven&#8217;t written yet.  Having someone ask about Robin&#8217;s note raises my priority for writing these prerequisites.</p>
<h3>Other Articles in this series</h3>
<ul><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=238">PM intro: basic formats</a> (2005-12-30)</p>
<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=239">PMs with Open-ended Prices</a> (2006-01-05)</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=249">Looking at Both Sides</a> (2006-04-17)</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=251">Book and Market Maker</a> (2006-04-28)</li>
<li><a href="http://blog.commerce.net/?p=261">Liquidity in N-Way claims</a> (2006-07-19)</li>
<li><a href="http://pancrit.blogspot.com/2006/09/continuous-outcomes-bands-ladders-and.html">Continuous Outcomes using Bands and Ladders</a> (2006-09-20)</li>
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		<title>SCIENTIST DAVE PENNOCK IS LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO HIS NEW YORK BANK.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230; Psstt&#8230; TradeSports traders&#8230; Wanna be rich?&#8230; Do like David Pennock: Get a PhD&#8230; with a major in probabilities&#8230; Although TradeSportsâ€™s individual state predictions and overall Senate prediction were entirely consistent, one might argue that traders underestimated the degree of &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2006/11/10/scientist-dave-pennock-is-laughing-all-the-way-to-his-new-york-bank/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2006/11/10/can-prediction-markets-be-right-too-often/" title=" Can prediction markets be right too often?">Psstt&#8230; TradeSports traders&#8230; Wanna be rich?&#8230; Do like David Pennock: Get a PhD&#8230; with a major in <strong>probabilities</strong>&#8230;</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Although TradeSportsâ€™s individual state predictions and overall Senate prediction were entirely consistent, one might argue that traders underestimated the degree of dependence (correlation) among statesâ€™ elections. In fact, <strong><em>I made a few bucks selling the â€œGOP Senate controlâ€ contract on TradeSports using exactly that reasoning</em>. </strong>The truth is, I probably just got lucky, and itâ€™s nearly impossible to say whether TradeSports underestimated or overestimated much of anything based on a single election. Such is part of the difficulty of evaluating probabilistic forecasts.<strong> </strong></p></blockquote>
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