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		<title>All against the BetFair premium charges</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/27/all-against-the-betfair-premium-charges/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent analysis from the &#8220;Punt&#8221; blogger. Serial bet winners are accused (that&#8217;s the word) to withdraw money from the BetFair machine, compelling BetFair to attract new money from newbies at a high marketing cost, and thus BetFair has decided to &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/27/all-against-the-betfair-premium-charges/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="Betfair's Tax on Winners." href="http://www.punt.com/2008/09/betfair-to-tax.html">Excellent analysis from the &#8220;Punt&#8221; blogger.</a></p>
<p>Serial bet winners are <strong>accused</strong> (that&#8217;s the word) to withdraw money from the BetFair machine, compelling BetFair to attract new money from newbies at a high marketing cost, and thus BetFair has decided to tax those serial bet winners.</p>
<p><strong>I wonder what a Harvard or Wharton MBA would think of this reasoning.</strong></p>
<p>It is my understanding that, in the betting and gambling business, you are always trying to attract new blood to make up for the disillusioned gamblers that you are losing on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Am I correct, folks?</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t BetFair raise moderately the trading fees <strong>for everybody</strong>, or try to reduce the cost of the BetFair IT architecture by slashing out what has been <strong>unnecessary</strong> added by their <strong>IT maniacs</strong>?</p>
<p><strong><em>Previously</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">BetFair impose new â€œPremium Chargesâ€, and their very active traders are up in arms.</a></strong> &#8211; 2008-09-09</p>
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		<title>Marketing web publication accuses de facto monopoly BetFair of gouging customers.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/25/betfair-premium-charges/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- - Previously: Our blog post on the BetFair Premium Charges -]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/366379/betfair-provides-a-lesson-in-customer-alienation.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9852" title="customer-alienation2" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/customer-alienation2.jpg" alt="" width="650" height="385" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<p>Previously: <strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">Our blog post on the BetFair Premium Charges</a></strong></p>
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		<title>The anti-BetFair Premium Charges video reappears on YouTube under a new account.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/22/anti-betfair-premium-charges-video-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Ghost Of Premium Charges - PREVIOUSLY: BetFair impose new â€œPremium Chargesâ€â€¦ Do BetFair gag the critics, too? -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNcH09oBPI">The Ghost Of Premium Charges</a></p>
<p><object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="425" height="344" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="src" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-NNcH09oBPI&amp;hl=fr&amp;fs=1" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="344" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-NNcH09oBPI&amp;hl=fr&amp;fs=1" allowfullscreen="true"></embed></object></p>
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<p><strong>PREVIOUSLY: <a title="BetFair impose new &quot;Premium Charges&quot;... Do BetFair gag the critics, too?" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">BetFair impose new â€œPremium Chargesâ€â€¦ Do BetFair gag the critics, too?</a></strong></p>
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		<title>WE ARE BETFAIR. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/13/betfair-forum-censorship/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- A list of the Betfair forum threads about the new premium charges. A FaceBook group has been created to protest the new BetFair premium charges. PREVIOUSLY: BetFair impose new &#8220;Premium Charges&#8221;&#8230; Do BetFair gag the critics, too?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=32&amp;forumName=General+Betting&amp;threadID=1669256&amp;tName=A+message+to+those+discussing+premium+charges&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=5"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9445" title="censorship" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/censorship.jpg" alt="" width="721" height="775" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://www.gubbed.com/forum-search.fcgi?q=premium+charge&amp;s=0&amp;b=Search">A list of the Betfair forum threads about the new premium charges</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=30124081805">A FaceBook group has been created to protest the new BetFair premium charges</a>.</p>
<p>PREVIOUSLY: <a title="BetFair impose new &quot;Premium Charges&quot;... Do BetFair gag the critics, too?" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">BetFair impose new &#8220;Premium Charges&#8221;&#8230; Do BetFair gag the critics, too?</a></p>
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		<title>With the &#8220;premium charges&#8221;, BetFair is asking the hogs to pony up. However, the collateral damage is that the concept of &#8220;exchange&#8221; is stabbed in the back.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/12/with-the-premium-charges-betfair-is-asking-the-hogs-to-pony-up-however-the-collateral-damage-is-that-the-concept-of-exchange-is-stabbed-in-the-back/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- - - A list of the Betfair forum threads about the new premium charges. A FaceBook group has been created to protest the new BetFair premium charges. PREVIOUSLY: BetFair impose new &#8220;Premium Charges&#8221;&#8230; Do BetFair gag the critics, too?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=32&amp;forumName=General+Betting&amp;threadID=1666983&amp;tName=Message+to+Betfair%3A+premium+charge&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=13"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9394" title="betfair-active-customers" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/betfair-active-customers.jpg" alt="" width="718" height="1031" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/09/09/betfair_where_winners_have_jus.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9266" title="betfair-monopoly" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/betfair-monopoly.jpg" alt="" width="683" height="588" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://markiverson-professionalsportstrader.blogspot.com/2008/09/comparison.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9347" title="not-an-exchange" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/not-an-exchange.jpg" alt="" width="486" height="925" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://www.gubbed.com/forum-search.fcgi?q=premium+charge&amp;s=0&amp;b=Search">A list of the Betfair forum threads about the new premium charges</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=30124081805">A FaceBook group has been created to protest the new BetFair premium charges</a>.</p>
<p>PREVIOUSLY: <a title="BetFair impose new &quot;Premium Charges&quot;... Do BetFair gag the critics, too?" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">BetFair impose new &#8220;Premium Charges&#8221;&#8230; Do BetFair gag the critics, too?</a></p>
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		<title>One day after BetFair&#8217;s PR move, the very active event derivative traders are still very displeased by the new BetFair &#8220;premium charges&#8221;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have re-published yesterday&#8217;s BetFair Q &#38; A at the bottom of my previous post &#8212;because that&#8217;s the post that Google features, bringing in 300 people a day. - My analysis of this PR debacle: BetFair has a very complex &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/11/betfair-premium-charges-displeased/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a title="BetFair impose new â€œPremium Chargesâ€â€¦ Do BetFair gag the critics, too?" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">I have re-published yesterday&#8217;s <strong>BetFair Q &amp; A</strong> at the bottom of my previous post</a> &#8212;because that&#8217;s the post that Google features, bringing in <strong>300 people a day.</strong></p>
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<p>My analysis of this PR debacle:</p>
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<li>BetFair has a <a title="BetFair and TradeFairâ€™s trading engines" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/10/betfair-tradefair-flywheel-lite-trading-engine/"><strong>very complex</strong> information technology system</a>, which is <strong>very costly</strong>, making BetFair less profitable than the fixed-odds betting operators (the big British bookmakers). They attack the problem with a dual approach: <a title="Because the BetFair trading engine handles a huge number of small bets, they had to lower its cost per transaction." href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/22/because-the-betfair-trading-engine-handles-a-huge-number-of-small-bets-they-had-to-lower-its-cost-per-transaction/">they try to lower the IT costs associated with each bet transaction</a> (see <a title="FlyWheel = BetFairâ€™s advanced trading engine" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/16/flywheel-betfairs-advanced-trading-engine/">FlyWheel</a> Lite), and they try to spot and exploit their most costly customers (hence the premium charges).</li>
<li>BetFair&#8217;s PR department is made up of friendly, knowledgeable and competent people. However, they are not up to date with BOTH the brand-new web publishing tools AND the brand-new behaviors associated with these tools. In other words, <strong>they don&#8217;t grasp the Web</strong> &#8212;where velocity and interactivity are 2 factors. Hiring a SEO is not the solution. <a title="Prediction markets, search engines, and social networking: a triangular marriage made in heaven." href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/08/30/prediction-markets-search-engines-social-networking/">BetFair should embrace the culture of the Web</a>.</li>
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<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=30124081805">A FaceBook group has been created to protest the new BetFair premium charges</a>.</p>
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<p>Here are some BetFair traders&#8217; takes:</p>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://markiverson-professionalsportstrader.blogspot.com/2008/09/comparison.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9330" title="comparison" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/comparison.jpg" alt="" width="487" height="763" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://markiverson-professionalsportstrader.blogspot.com/2008/09/comparison.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9404" title="correction" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/correction.jpg" alt="" width="486" height="640" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://markiverson-professionalsportstrader.blogspot.com/2008/09/comparison.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9347" title="not-an-exchange" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/not-an-exchange.jpg" alt="" width="486" height="925" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://green-all-over.blogspot.com/2008/09/betfair-premium-tax.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9331" title="analysis" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/analysis.jpg" alt="" width="483" height="780" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.slipperytoad.co.uk/this-story-has-legs/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9387" title="mba" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/mba.jpg" alt="" width="543" height="683" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p><a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=32&amp;forumName=General+Betting&amp;threadID=1666983&amp;tName=Message+to+Betfair%3A+premium+charge&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=13"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9394" title="betfair-active-customers" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/betfair-active-customers.jpg" alt="" width="718" height="1031" /></a></p></blockquote>
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<p>UPDATE:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gubbed.com/forum-search.fcgi?q=premium+charge&amp;s=0&amp;b=Search">A list of the Betfair forum threads about the new premium charges</a>.</p>
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		<title>Just like Greg Mankiw, the BetFair event derivative traders don&#8217;t like tax hikes.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/10/just-like-greg-mankiw-the-betfair-event-derivative-traders-dont-like-tax-hikes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A non-scientific poll among British event derivative traders: - PREVIOUSLY: BetFair impose new &#8220;Premium Charges&#8221;&#8230; Do BetFair gag the critics, too? UPDATE: They announce a Q&#38;A.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A non-scientific poll among British event derivative traders:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;"><a href="http://markiverson-professionalsportstrader.blogspot.com/"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9304" title="poll" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/poll.jpg" alt="" width="245" height="143" /></a></p>
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<p>PREVIOUSLY: <strong><a title="BetFair impose new &quot;Premium Charges&quot;... Do BetFair gag the critics, too?" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">BetFair impose new &#8220;Premium Charges&#8221;&#8230; Do BetFair gag the critics, too?</a></strong></p>
<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=9&amp;forumName=Service&amp;threadID=1663284&amp;tName=Premium+Charge&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=1">They announce a Q&amp;A.</a></p>
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		<title>UK billionaire Andrew Black (the BetFair co-founder) owns and manages a stable of 30+ Thoroughbred horses, but can&#8217;t stand anymore to hear about the event derivative traders whom he extracted wealth from.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/10/andrew-black/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- The Independent - PREVIOUSLY: BetFair impose new &#8220;Premium Charges&#8221;&#8230; Do BetFair gag the critics, too? UPDATE: They announce a Q&#38;A.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bertsblog.co.uk/horse-racing/no-further-comment.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9297" title="bert-comments" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/bert-comments.jpg" alt="" width="756" height="399" /></a></p>
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<p><a title="Betfair faces criticism for massive rise in charges" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/racing/betfair-faces-criticism-for-massive-rise-in-charges-924359.html">The Independent</a></p>
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<p>PREVIOUSLY: <strong><a title="BetFair impose new &quot;Premium Charges&quot;... Do BetFair gag the critics, too?" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">BetFair impose new &#8220;Premium Charges&#8221;&#8230; Do BetFair gag the critics, too?</a></strong></p>
<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=9&amp;forumName=Service&amp;threadID=1663284&amp;tName=Premium+Charge&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=1">They announce a Q&amp;A.</a></p>
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		<title>#1 &#8212;above The Guardian&#8230; and far above BetFair.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/google-betfair-premium-charges/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- - UPDATE: - PREVIOUSLY: BetFair impose new â€œPremium Chargesâ€â€¦ Do BetFair gag the critics, too? UPDATE: They announce a Q&#38;A.]]></description>
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<dt class="wp-caption-dt"><a href="http://www.schwarzenegger.it/"><img class="size-full wp-image-8305" title="Schwartzy - Arnold Schwarzenegger" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/schartzy.jpg" alt="" width="472" height="642" /></a></dt>
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<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;q=BetFair+%22premium+charges%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;domains=chrisfmasse.com&amp;sitesearch="><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9291" title="google-guardian" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/google-guardian.jpg" alt="" width="676" height="486" /></a></p>
<p>-</p>
<p>UPDATE:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-9299" title="stats" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/stats.jpg" alt="" width="574" height="77" /></p>
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<p>PREVIOUSLY: <strong><a title="a small number (less than 0.5%) of our most successful customers will incur Premium Charges." href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">BetFair impose new â€œPremium Chargesâ€â€¦ Do BetFair gag the critics, too?</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>UPDATE: <a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=9&amp;forumName=Service&amp;threadID=1663284&amp;tName=Premium+Charge&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=1">They announce a Q&amp;A.</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Some vocal event derivative traders reject the new BetFair &#8220;premium charges&#8221; &#8212;as a matter of principle.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-a-matter-of-principle/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- PREVIOUSLY: BetFair impose new â€œPremium Chargesâ€â€¦ Do BetFair gag the critics, too? UPDATE: They announce a Q&#38;A.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bertsblog.co.uk/horses/feeling-sheepish.html"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-9287" title="betfair-principle" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/betfair-principle.jpg" alt="" width="599" height="515" /></a></p>
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<p>PREVIOUSLY: <strong><a title="a small number (less than 0.5%) of our most successful customers will incur Premium Charges." href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/09/09/betfair-premium-charges-2/">BetFair impose new â€œPremium Chargesâ€â€¦ Do BetFair gag the critics, too?</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>UPDATE: <a href="http://site.forum.betfair.com/jive3/betex/ThreadsFrameset.jsp?forumID=9&amp;forumName=Service&amp;threadID=1663284&amp;tName=Premium+Charge&amp;schatname=&amp;iMessageCount=1">They announce a Q&amp;A.</a></strong></p>
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