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		<title>Camorra assassination recorded live on camera in Naples</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<title>Are prediction markets on deaths and assassinations SOMETIMES acceptable?</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/12/03/prediction-markets-on-deaths-and-assassinations/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[BELOW IS THE CHART OF A SETTLED PREDICTION MARKET: Will Patrick Swayze die before April 15, 2008? It was settled on &#8220;no&#8221;. HubDub CEO Nigel Eccles thinks that his traders &#8220;quickly came to the conclusion that the [early 2008] story &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/12/03/prediction-markets-on-deaths-and-assassinations/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BELOW IS THE CHART OF A SETTLED PREDICTION MARKET:</strong></p>
<p>Will Patrick Swayze die before April 15, 2008?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_Patrick_Swayze_die_before_April_15_2008_3689/view"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-11983" title="patrick-swayze" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/patrick-swayze.png" alt="" width="500" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>It was settled on &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
<p>HubDub CEO Nigel Eccles <a href="http://www.hubdub.com/e/Topic/Patrick_Swayze_death_market_276">thinks</a> that his traders &#8220;quickly came to the conclusion that the [early 2008] story [giving him 5 weeks to live] was bogus.&#8221; And Nigel Eccles asks, &#8220;Is this an example where a death pool prediction market is actually <strong>socially valuable</strong>?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>In my view:</strong></p>
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<li>It&#8217;s the opinion makers external to HubDub who should decide this. If most people and/or lawmakers decide that prediction markets on <strong>deaths and assassinations</strong> are disgusting and unacceptable, <a title="Yet another person outraged by the HubDub prediction markets on deaths and assassinations" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/11/25/hubdub-prediction-markets-on-deaths-and-assassinations/">then they should be pruned</a>. We need goodwill towards the prediction markets if we want the real-money prediction markets to be legalized everywhere.</li>
<li>Would Nigel Eccles accept a prediction market about when his wife (or kid) is going to die?</li>
<li>Is there a social utility in knowing when exactly a celebrity is going to die (<em>supposing that such a prediction market could be accurate</em>)? <strong><a title="The HubDub prediction markets on assassinations could be somewhat useful in some cases â€”now that I am sober and that I think of it." href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/12/01/hubdub-prediction-markets-assassination/">For a head of state, a running politician, or a Justice, that information might have a value</a>.</strong> However, in the case of a Hollywood celebrity, I don&#8217;t see where the value lays. A prediction market on the upcoming death of a celebrity would participate in that big, <strong>stupid circus</strong> that occurs today, with <strong>paparazzi and tabloids</strong> taking an importance that they shouldn&#8217;t have in the first place. Our youth would be better off browsing and betting on prediction markets about science and technology. We should elevate our global civilization. <strong>I don&#8217;t see any (social or individual) benefit about knowing in advance when exactly Patrick Swayze is going to die.</strong> I am scratching my head right now &#8212;and I still don&#8217;t see any reason why we should spend our precious time blogging on this issue, betting on that, or collecting probabilistic predictions on that. I just don&#8217;t. (If you have a counter argument, do publish a comment below.)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/12/03/2008-12-03_swayze_blasts_mags_death_watch.html"><strong>The very best wishes to Patrick Swayze, by the way.</strong></a><strong><br />
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		<title>The HubDub prediction markets on assassinations could be somewhat useful in some cases &#8212;now that I am sober and that I think of it.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/12/01/hubdub-prediction-markets-assassination/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I published 3 times my opinion that it is a nuclear scandal of apocalyptic proportions that HubDub allows prediction markets on celebs&#8217; death and assassination. My view is that this will attract strong criticism from people who are very strict &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/12/01/hubdub-prediction-markets-assassination/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/">published</a> 3 <a href="http://www.midasoracle.com/">times</a> my opinion that it is a nuclear scandal of apocalyptic proportions that <strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.com/">HubDub allows prediction markets on celebs&#8217; death and assassination</a>.</strong> My view is that this will attract strong criticism from people who are very strict on the issue of morality. And the prediction markets don&#8217;t need another <a href="http://hanson.gmu.edu/policyanalysismarket.html">polÃ©mique</a> at this time.</p>
<p>But after reading Medemi&#8217;s comment, popped up an idea in my mind. Medemi tells about the assassination of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn"><strong>Pim Fortuyn</strong></a>, an extremist politician in Holland &#8212;who received many death threats and did not get appropriate protection. <strong>His assassination was predictable.</strong> (He was indeed gunned down during a political campaign.) <strong>If, at the time, a prediction market had been opened on the likelihood of his violent death, the high probabilities would have attracted attention &#8212;and, as a result, maybe the Police would have granted Pim Fortuyn a special protection.</strong></p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>Yet another person outraged by the HubDub prediction markets on deaths and assassinations</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/11/25/hubdub-prediction-markets-on-deaths-and-assassinations/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here. Outraged by that. Previously.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.com/">Here</a>.</p>
<p>Outraged by <strong><a href="http://www.hubdub.com/m18338/Will_Reality_Star_Jade_Goody_still_be_alive_by_August_1st_2009">that</a>.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/"><em>Previously</em></a>.</p>
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		<title>The HubDub predictions markets on assassinations and deaths are sparking outrage.</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/11/23/assassinations-deaths/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nigel Eccles does not seem to understand that. -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.com/">Nigel Eccles does not seem</a> to understand <strong><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/online/hubdub-the-virtual-bookie-for-timewasting-news-junkies-1030828.html">that</a>.</strong></p>
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