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		<title>Andrew McAfee&#8217;s anecdote on enterprise prediction markets is a load of bullsh*t.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Hewitt: Iâ€™m curious why Andrew McAfee would cite this example in support of prediction markets. Though he mentions that his executive students had conducted a â€œsimple pollâ€, in fact, they really created a pari-mutuel market, which provided the â€œrisk &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/12/02/andrew-mcafee-enterprise-prediction-markets-2/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/12/02/andrew-mcafee-enterprise-prediction-markets/#comment-27489">Paul Hewitt</a>:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>Iâ€™m curious why Andrew McAfee would cite this example in support of prediction markets.</strong> Though he mentions that his executive students had conducted a â€œsimple pollâ€,<strong> in fact, they really created a pari-mutuel market</strong>, which provided the â€œrisk and gainâ€. <strong>It was <span style="color: #ff0000;">not</span> a prediction market</strong>, as the executives believed it was. <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>There was no buying and selling of shares. </strong></span>They simply purchased their â€œhorsesâ€ (time slots). It might be more appropriate to call the entries â€œticketsâ€ rather than â€œsharesâ€ and â€œbetsâ€ rather than â€œinvestmentsâ€.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">The â€œconsensusâ€ ticket was correct. No surprise here (favourite), and the payoff was slightly higher than it should have been, because of the slight long shot bias. Andrew might have corrected them on their terminology, too. <strong>Prediction markets are <span style="color: #ff0000;">not</span> run to obtain a *consensus* of opinion. They are run to *aggregate* information from the market participants.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">It really would have been interesting to sit in on the class, had the fellow arrived at one of the other time periods. Would the executives have cheered that their â€œprediction marketâ€ had worked like a charm? Surely, someone would have jumped up and said â€œbut itâ€™s well-calibrated!â€ Had the wrong â€œhorseâ€ won, would *any* of the executives have been confident enough to present a proposal on the use of prediction markets in their companies? Iâ€™ll bet all of them would have been a bit concerned that the front runner didnâ€™t win.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>Andrew writes that it showed the â€œpower of incentivesâ€. Actually, it did <span style="color: #ff0000;">not</span>, at least in the sense we usually define â€œincentivesâ€ in prediction markets.</strong> In a true [prediction market], the incentive is presented when the market price is not â€œaccurateâ€. The informed trader either knows this or has an incentive to obtain more information and set the price right. His incentive is the profit from trading to correct an inaccurate market price. There was no change in the price of any of the â€œsharesâ€ in the market they described. <strong>Hence, there was <span style="color: #ff0000;">no</span> â€œincentiveâ€ in this sense.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Andrew also states that this experiment shows how easy it is to set up â€œconvincing demonstrationsâ€ of prediction markets. I agree, they are easy to set up (at least technically). <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Making them work is much, much more difficult.</strong></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Iâ€™ve read Andrew McAfeeâ€™s other posts on prediction markets, and it appears <strong>heâ€™s been slipped a bit too much of the PM Kool-Aid that is going around.</strong> If you donâ€™t read the prediction market research papers with a critical eye, you can get caught up in the over-enthusiastic reporting of results and come to the conclusion that prediction markets are a *proven* technology for greatly improving corporate forecasting problems. <strong>Nothing could be further from the truth at this point.</strong> Worse, there is not much useful research being published.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">I think Andrew McAfee should have presented his students with a more balanced summary of the strengths and weaknesses of prediction markets.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Thatâ€™s my take on it. However, I am happy that the executives were interested in prediction markets! There is some hope, yet.</p>
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		<title>Andrew McAfee wanna share an anecdote about EPMs with you.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious about what Paul Hewitt will think of <strong><a href="http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/hbr/mcafee/2009/12/prediction-markets-a-teaching-moment.html">this</a>.</strong></p>
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		<title>Surprise, Surprise: Andrew McAfee is pulling for CrowdCast.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[He loves it. [Disclosure: He is on the CowdCast board. ] Andrew McAfee asks a question at the bottom of his post. Here is my answer. The reason for not adopting collective forecasting (prediction markets being the most complex method &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/07/07/surprise-surprise-andrew-mcafee-is-pulling-for-crowdcast/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://andrewmcafee.org/2009/07/mobs-rule/">He loves it</a>.</p>
<p>[Disclosure: He is on the <a href="http://crowdcast.com/">CowdCast</a> board. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
<p>Andrew McAfee asks a question at the bottom of his post. Here is my answer. The reason for <strong>not</strong> adopting collective forecasting (prediction markets being the most complex method of information aggregation that predicts) would be that <strong>the benefit (objectivity in forecasting) is too small for those executives who don&#8217;t really need that surplus of objectivity.</strong></p>
<p>If you have other questions, professor McAfee, just ask. I&#8217;ll have the answers for you.</p>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <a href="../2009/06/25/crowdcast-collective-forecasting-collective-intelligence-that-predicts/">CrowdCast = Collective Forecasting = Collective Intelligence That Predicts</a></p>
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		<title>Prof Andrew McAfee steals predictive info from NewsFutures, and beats his students with it.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew McAfee: Two questions to wind up this post. First, how could I have made better use of crowd wisdom and other available information to make better March Madness picks? And do you have any tips on how to be &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/23/prof-andrew-mcafee-steals-predictive-info-from-newsfutures-and-beats-his-students-with-it/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://andrewmcafee.org/blog/?p=711">Andrew McAfee</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 300px;">Two questions to wind up this post. <strong>First, how could I have made better use of crowd wisdom and other available information to make better March Madness picks?</strong> And do you have any tips on how to be a good Twitter-assisted public speaker?Â  Leave a comment, please, and let us know.</p>
<p>My answer to his first question:</p>
<p>- I would have <a href="http://www.chrisfmasse.com/3/3/exchanges/">looked</a> at <a href="http://betfair.com/">BetFair</a> and <a href="http://hubdub.com/">HubDub</a>, in addition to <a href="http://us.newsfutures.com/">NewsFutures</a>.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Enterprise 2.0 is the use of emergent social software platforms within companies, or between companies and their partners or customers.&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew McAfee PS: Prediction markets are included in the mix &#8212;along with wikis, blogs, social networking software, RSS, links, search, and tags. -]]></description>
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<p>PS: Prediction markets are included in the mix &#8212;along with wikis, blogs, social networking software, RSS, links, search, and tags.</p>
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		<title>Prediction Markets at Google &#8212; by Peter A. Coles, Karim R. Lakhani, Andrew McAfee</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alas, that paper is not free to access. Andrew McAfee&#8217;s post reveals this: Prediction markets were (sic) very much like stock markets. They contained securities, each of which had a price. [...] - Not sure why they used the past &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/20/prediction-markets-at-google/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, that <a href="https://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/b02/en/search/searchResults.jhtml;jsessionid=LEFQRY00D2BPCAKRGWDR5VQBKE0YIISW?Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&amp;userView=CORPORATE&amp;Ntt=google+prediction+market&amp;x=0&amp;y=0&amp;Ntk=main_search&amp;N=0">paper</a> is not free to access.</p>
<p><a title="A Case for Prediction Markets" href="http://blog.hbs.edu/faculty/amcafee/index.php/faculty_amcafee_v3/a_case_for_prediction_markets/">Andrew McAfee&#8217;s post</a> reveals this:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">Prediction markets were (sic) very <strong>much like <em>stock</em> markets.</strong> They contained <strong>securities</strong>, each of which had a price.  [...]</p>
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<p>Not sure why they used the past tense.</p>
<p>-</p>
<p>Prediction markets <strong>are</strong> in fact <strong><em>event derivative</em> markets.</strong></p>
<p>-</p>
<p>Papers from Robin Hanson, Justin Wolfers, Eric Zitzewitz, Koleman Strumpf, etc., are free to download.</p>
<p>-</p>
<p>Via George Tziralis, of <a title="AskMarkets" href="http://www.askmarkets.com/">Ask Markets</a>.</p>
<p><em>Previously</em>: <strong><a title="Do Googleâ€™s enterprise prediction markets work?" href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/26/google-enterprise-prediction-markets-4/">Do Googleâ€™s enterprise prediction markets work?</a></strong></p>
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		<title>Enterprise prediction markets now part of Harvard MBA.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Managing in the Information Age &#8211; (Spot the Google mention.) &#8211; A course by Andrew McAfee Via our good friend George Tziralis of AskMarkets]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.hbs.edu/mba/academics/coursecatalog/1550.html" title=" Managing in the Information Age"><strong>Managing in the Information Age</strong> &#8211; (Spot the Google mention.) &#8211; A course by Andrew McAfee</a></p>
<p>Via our good friend <a href="http://gtziralis.com/" title="George Tziralis">George Tziralis</a> of <a href="http://gtziralis.com/" title="George Tziralis"></a><a href="http://www.askmarkets.com/" title="AskMarkets">AskMarkets</a></p>
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		<title>I canâ€™t think of a single reason not to deploy enterprise prediction markets.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230; said [*] Harvard Business School Associate Professor Andrew McAfee. [*] Original verbatim is this: I canâ€™t think of a single reason not to deploy predictive markets. Any market is somewhat &#8220;predictive&#8221;. Our prediction markets are specially designed for easy &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/11/07/i-can%e2%80%99t-think-of-a-single-reason-not-to-deploy-enterprise-prediction-markets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=6903" title="Defragging Enterprise 2.0">said <strong>[*]</strong> Harvard Business School Associate Professor Andrew McAfee</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>[*]</strong> Original verbatim is this: <strong>I canâ€™t think of a single reason not to deploy <em>predictive</em> markets. </strong> <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=6903" title="Defragging Enterprise 2.0"><img src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/andrew-mcafee.jpg" alt="Andrew McAfee" /></a></p></blockquote>
<p>Any market is somewhat &#8220;predictive&#8221;. Our prediction markets are specially designed for easy trading and easy interpretation.</p>
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