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		<title>How would BetFair respond to the French arguments against betting exchanges?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Robb of BetFair: Chris, if you read the article header (â€French government moves to ban betting exchangesâ€) youâ€™ll notice that it says â€˜movesâ€™, and doesnâ€™t say that Betfair is already banned anywhere in the piece. I agree with your &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/10/09/betfair-french-arguments-against-betting-exchanges/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/10/09/the-french-bill-on-internet-betting-and-gambling-is-still-being-processed/#comment-27317">Michael Robb of BetFair</a>:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Chris, if you read the article header (â€French government moves to ban betting exchangesâ€) youâ€™ll notice that it says â€˜movesâ€™, and doesnâ€™t say that Betfair is already banned anywhere in the piece. I agree with your view here that it is not yet set in stone. <strong>[*]</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">On the two arguments they cite I would like to add the following. First, that <strong>to say each trader on a betting exchange is a bookmaker is flawed.</strong> To be a licensed bookmaker you are responsible for, amongst other things, holding customer funds, preventing underage gambling, preventing crime and money laundering, assisting in the maintenance of integrity in sport and to create/settle the betting markets themselves. In addition, all licensed operators pay tax as set out by relevant authorities. All licensed betting companies, including betting exchanges, are required to do these things as part of their license. <strong>Individual customers, of traditional bookmakers and exchanges alike, are not.</strong> Put simply â€“ traders on exchanges do not have to do anything that a licensed bookmaker has to do and so clearly cannot be said to be bookmakers themselves.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Thatâ€™s the core argument. The other would require someone explaining to me what the difference is between <strong>â€˜layingâ€™</strong> Liverpool on an exchange in, for example, Chelsea v Liverpool, versus â€˜backingâ€™ both Chelsea and the draw with an ordinary fixed-odds bookmaker. There is no difference.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">On the second point, the 2007 study, itâ€™s important to acknowledge that <strong>all licensed operators take the issue of problem gambling extremely seriously, and are rightly required to do so.</strong> It is true to say that exchanges are shown in the study to have a higher rate of associated problem gambling than other forms (9.8%), with the exception of spread betting (14.7%) and fixed odds betting terminals (11.2%). The flaw in the methodology, we believe, is this.<strong> The study takes account of all betting through exchanges. However, betting via bookmaker shops and telephone with traditional bookmakers is broken down into separate categories based on â€˜type of betâ€™.</strong> The study breaks down â€˜offlineâ€™ bets into â€˜dog racesâ€™ (5.2%), â€˜horse racingâ€™ (1.7%) and â€˜betting with a bookmaker (other than horse or dog racing)â€™ (3.9%).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">The study, however, does not produce a similar breakdown of â€˜type of betâ€™ made with exchanges. Therefore <strong>all bets made on exchanges, be it on racing, football or greyhounds etc, are being compared only to separate groups of bets made offline with traditional bookmakers.</strong> An analogy would be to compare the number of loaves of bread sold by supermarket â€˜xâ€™ in a week with the total number of all products sold by supermarket â€˜yâ€™ in a week, and then suggest that supermarket â€˜yâ€™ had a higher sales rate based on that information.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Moreover, this whole study was based on <strong>a sample of just 10 people.</strong> <strong>[**]</strong> While problem gambling is a clear issue that needs and is treated very seriously by operators, more reasoned research should be used.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>The French action is yet another reason for people to sign the <a href="http://www.right2bet.net/">http://www.right2bet.net</a> petition.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Mike</p>
<p><strong>[*]</strong> Apology.</p>
<p><strong>[**]</strong> See Mike&#8217;s detailed comment, just below.</p>
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		<title>Was Larry King a horse racing betting addict in the late 60s and early 70s?</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/23/larry-king-horse-racing-betting/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 07:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the video, he denies. He suggests (if I understand well) that his passion for betting on ponies didn&#8217;t prevent him to have a normal productive life. - - The Daily Show With Jon Stewart M &#8211; Th 11p / &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/23/larry-king-horse-racing-betting/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the video, he denies. He suggests (if I understand well) that his passion for betting on ponies didn&#8217;t prevent him to have a normal productive life.</p>
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