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		<title>Scrutinizing InTrade&#8217;s financial statement for 2008 &#8212; Part II</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/19/scrutinizing-intrades-financial-statement-for-2008-part-ii/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesse Livermore (a pseudo): More Intrade Financials I paid 7.50 euros to see Intrade&#8217;s full filings from 2008 at www.cro.ie. I&#8217;m not going to post them publicly, because they contain the names and addresses of everyone who owns shares in &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/19/scrutinizing-intrades-financial-statement-for-2008-part-ii/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wiserthanthecrowd.com/2009/03/more-intrade-financials.html">Jesse Livermore (a pseudo)</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">More Intrade Financials</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">I paid 7.50 euros to see Intrade&#8217;s full filings from 2008 at www.cro.ie. I&#8217;m not going to post them publicly, because they contain the names and addresses of everyone who owns shares in the company. (Fun fact: John Delaney&#8217;s address does not have a number, it has a name.)</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">A few new pieces of information:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">-How can Intrade keep losing money? Like any other startup, by issuing new shares. Intrade issued $2 million in new stock last year. About 320,000 shares were issued, on a base of 1.2 million shares, which would value Intrade at about $10 million, the same as my ballpark estimate yesterday.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">-I was correct about the valuation of the Tangible Fixed Assets. Intrade valued anything left over from Trade Exchange Network at $0, and depreciated computer and software equipment by 33% of the purchase price per year.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">-The report does not break down expenses and revenues in great detail. It tells total employee compensation, and interest income, but does not spell out commission revenue or other expenses.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">-Trade commissions are (properly) recognized only when they are paid. Trading fees are paid when trades are made; expiry fees are paid when contracts expire. <strong>Intrade likely recognized a good deal of revenue on election day, which at least mitigated their losses.</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 150px;">I don&#8217;t view this with the shock of some on the Intrade forums. These numbers seem entirely reasonable to me. Intrade has grown substantially comparing 2004 to 2008, and even in the absence of legislative change, <strong>will probably be profitable in 2012.</strong> I&#8217;m not going to short the contracts on whether Intrade will still be in business. Even in the unlikely event that Intrade were to close, there is no reason to worry about customer deposits.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/16/scrutinizing-intrades-financial-statement-for-2008/">Part I</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/12/intrade-account-balance-sheet/">The InTrade numbers</a></p>
<p><em>Next</em>: <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/05/05/public-prediction-market-operator-intrade-raises-us35m/">Public prediction market operator InTrade raises US$3.5m.</a></p>
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		<title>InTrade CEO John Delaney: &#8220;Midas Oracle is welcome to publish our financials. I am glad that bombastic gadfly did it.&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[- The InTrade documents: - - - I have obscured the personal addresses of these 2 persons:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/3500.page"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13277" title="delaney-intrade" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/delaney-intrade.jpg" alt="delaney-intrade" width="900" height="434" /></a></p>
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<p><strong><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/12/intrade-account-balance-sheet/">The InTrade documents</a>:</strong></p>
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<p>I have obscured the personal addresses of these 2 persons:</p>
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		<title>InTrade recorded a loss after taxation of $799,253 in 2007&#8211;2008.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the future of InTrade? Comments are open. - - - I have obscured the personal addresses of these 2 persons:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What is <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/12/intrade-account-balance-sheet/">the future of InTrade</a>?</strong></p>
<p>Comments are open.</p>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13235" title="intradeaccounts" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intradeaccounts.gif" alt="intradeaccounts" width="569" height="654" /></p>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13236" title="intrade2" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intrade2.gif" alt="intrade2" width="546" height="641" /></p>
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<p>I have obscured the personal addresses of these 2 persons:</p>
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		<title>InTrade&#8217;s financials: Where is the note #12?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our commenter: We would need to see note 12 to understand what happened to the Share Premium account. It appears that the December 31, 2007 balance of the P &#38; L Account was applied against the Share Premium account. However, &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/16/intrade-account-balance-sheet-2/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/12/intrade-account-balance-sheet/#comment-23737">Our commenter</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 300px;"><strong>We would need to see note 12 to understand what happened to the Share Premium account.</strong> It appears that the December 31, 2007 balance of the P &amp; L Account was applied against the Share Premium account. However, at September 30, 2008, the Share Premium is 1,063,614 higher than it should be (6,651,502 &#8211; 5,715,540 = 935,962 vs. 1,999,576). <strong>Note 12 might explain why.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>2007</strong></p>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13169" title="te1" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/te1.gif" alt="te1" width="490" height="701" /></p>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13170" title="te2" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/te2.gif" alt="te2" width="625" height="661" /></p>
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<p><strong>2008</strong></p>
<p>-<br />
There might be <strong>a slight discrepancy</strong> between the accounts and the balance sheet.</p>
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<img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13235" title="intradeaccounts" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intradeaccounts.gif" alt="intradeaccounts" width="569" height="654" /></p>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13236" title="intrade2" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intrade2.gif" alt="intrade2" width="546" height="641" /></p>
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<p>I have obscured the personal addresses of these 2 persons:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13237" title="intrade3-without-addresses" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intrade3-without-addresses.jpg" alt="intrade3-without-addresses" width="539" height="627" /></p>
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		<title>InTrade&#8217;s Accounts and Balance Sheets &#8212; 2007 and 2008</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This material is available on: http://www.cro.ie/ . . - 2007 - - - 2008 - There might be a slight discrepancy between the accounts and the balance sheet. If you, too, spot it, then publish a comment just below, and &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2009/03/12/intrade-account-balance-sheet/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This material is available on: <a href="http://www.cro.ie/">http://www.cro.ie/</a> .<br />
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<p><strong>2007</strong></p>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13169" title="te1" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/te1.gif" alt="te1" width="490" height="701" /></p>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13170" title="te2" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/te2.gif" alt="te2" width="625" height="661" /></p>
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<p><strong>2008</strong></p>
<p>-<br />
There might be <strong>a slight discrepancy</strong> between the accounts and the balance sheet. If you, too, spot it, then publish a comment just below, and we will share our thoughts. (Please, do not publish any negative comment that can be legally reprehensible.)</p>
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<img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13235" title="intradeaccounts" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intradeaccounts.gif" alt="intradeaccounts" width="569" height="654" /></p>
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<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13236" title="intrade2" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intrade2.gif" alt="intrade2" width="546" height="641" /></p>
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<p>I have obscured the personal addresses of these 2 persons:</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-13237" title="intrade3-without-addresses" src="http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/intrade3-without-addresses.jpg" alt="intrade3-without-addresses" width="539" height="627" /></p>
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