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		<title>Reverse engineering of a nasty BetFair rumor that made rounds on Midas Oracle and elsewhere</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		
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The Sporting Exchange (BetFair-TradeFair) is a gaming company that operates on many countries.
It would happen, occasionally, that one country&#8217;s laws would allow fixed-odds bookmakers &#8212;but not betting exchanges.
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<li><a href="http://www.betfaircorporate.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.betfaircorporate.com');">The Sporting Exchange</a> (BetFair-TradeFair) is a gaming company that operates on many countries.</li>
<li>It would happen, occasionally, that one country&#8217;s laws would allow fixed-odds bookmakers &#8212;but <strong><em>not</em></strong> betting exchanges.</li>
<li>BetFair would still want to operate in that country &#8211;as a bookmaker, not as a prediction exchange&#8211; to have its name out there &#8212;with the long-term goal of reverting it to a full exchange, once the laws will have been modified, later on, in the future.</li>
<li>To do so, in the summer of 2007, BetFair began to hire people to provide prices and manage risk for that Internet sportsbook. That sportsbook has no connection whatsoever with the UK betting exchange.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/08/betfair-multiples-2/">One un-hired job candidate</a> told everyone who would listen that <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/"><strong>BetFair was preparing to do some hidden market-making on their betting exchange &#8212;hiring a &#8220;team of traders&#8221;</strong></a><strong>.</strong></li>
<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/28/betfair-exchange-market-making/" title="BetFair is as innocent as a lamb… but their P.R. people can’t tell you that at this time. Here’s why.">BetFair wouldn&#8217;t deny those allegations, out of fear of hinting its competitors</a>.</li>
<li><strong>The sportbook, <em>which was at the origin of that market-making rumor</em>, is <a href="http://www.betfair.it/" title="BetFair Italy" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.betfair.it');">BetFair Italy</a> &#8212;which has opened shop recently.</strong></li>
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Similar blog posts: <ul><li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/29/betfair-valuation-3-billion-us-dollars/" rel="bookmark" title="April 29, 2008">HubDub&#8217;s Nigel Eccles pinches Henry Blodget&#8217;s nose (like trumpetist Miles Davies did for one of his musicians, on stage, one day), and the damn result of that, believe or not, is that the valuation of The Sporting Exchange (BetFair-TradeFair) drops from $5 billion to $3 billion. So, either Nigel should be celebrated for telling the truth, or his ass should be kicked for ruining the party.</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/28/prediction-markets-betfair-tradefair-sia25/" rel="bookmark" title="April 28, 2008">PREDICTION MARKETS HAVE ARRIVED: The Sporting Exchange (BetFair-TradeFair) ranks #4 in the Silicon Alley Insider&#8217;s list of the top 25 digital startups, and is valued at 5 billion US dollars. (Yes, billions.)</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/29/betfair-education-has-now-a-sub-site-within-the-betfair-blog/" rel="bookmark" title="April 29, 2008">BetFair Education has now a sub-site within the BetFair blog.</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/21/betfair-queen-award-enterprise/" rel="bookmark" title="April 21, 2008">BetFair-TradeFair has won its second Queen’s Award for Enterprise in its eight-year history.</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/15/in-running-in-play-betting-exchanges/" rel="bookmark" title="May 15, 2008">The UK&#8217;s Gambling Commission is after BetFair and Betdaq for in-running (in-play) betting</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/11/ed-murray-betfair-radio-blog/" rel="bookmark" title="April 11, 2008">Ed Murray has computed what Mark Davies never did: EVENT DERIVATIVE TRADERS WANT EXTERNAL, TRUSTED SOURCES OF INFORMATION &#8212;NOT THE EXCHANGE-PRODUCED SAUSAGES.</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/09/betfair-bet-matching-process-growth/" rel="bookmark" title="May 9, 2008">BetFair is experimenting a phenomenal revenue growth with sports prediction markets, as I am typing this post. Maybe our good friend the &#8220;pragmatist&#8221; could look into that, and report his research findings to the CFTC. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll do. The delicious sound of a red-hot cash register, with the dollars (or here, pounds) pouring in like the Niagara falls &#8212;that&#8217;s &#8220;pragmatism&#8221; in its purest form, to me.</a></li>
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		<title>Tennis is not systematically nor institutionally corrupt. There is no evidence of a link to the Mafia.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Only 45 suspicious tennis matches out of the hundreds of thousands of matches played over the last five years.
That&#8217;s peanuts.
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<p>That&#8217;s peanuts.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&amp;sid=ahmwXaq883ys&amp;refer=home" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.bloomberg.com');">Bloomberg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/20/sports/tennis/20tennis.html?_r=2&amp;ref=tennis&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.nytimes.com');">New York Times</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article3964492.ece" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.timesonline.co.uk');">The Times (of London)</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/may/20/tennis1" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.guardian.co.uk');">The Guardian</a></p>
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<p><em>Previously:</em> <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/28/betfair-sports-betting/">The Mark Davies speech on <strong>sports, corruption, sports betting, and BetFair</strong> </a></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/12/betfair-markets-are-settled-integrity-team/" rel="bookmark" title="May 12, 2008">How BetFair markets are settled in the situation where their integrity team are unhappy about some aspect of the betting on that event</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/04/28/betfair-sports-betting/" rel="bookmark" title="April 28, 2008">If the British legal betting companies offer bets on the sport, it is because there is demand for bets on the sport &#8212;and if that demand were not offered in a regulated environment, it would be filled in an unregulated one (like what we see with TradeSports-InTrade and MatchBook in the US market).</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/10/betfairs-betting-integrity-of-sports/" rel="bookmark" title="May 10, 2008">BetFair&#8217;s message to the UK&#8217;s Gambling Commission on betting and the integrity of sports</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/06/pikum-2/" rel="bookmark" title="May 6, 2008">Pikum is a new kind of betting game that can be played for bragging rights. In each Pikum, you compete with other players to see who can best predict the results of sports or other events. Pikums can be created by anyone, and easily shared online with friends.</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/15/in-running-in-play-betting-exchanges/" rel="bookmark" title="May 15, 2008">The UK&#8217;s Gambling Commission is after BetFair and Betdaq for in-running (in-play) betting</a></li>

<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/09/betfair-bet-matching-process-growth/" rel="bookmark" title="May 9, 2008">BetFair is experimenting a phenomenal revenue growth with sports prediction markets, as I am typing this post. Maybe our good friend the &#8220;pragmatist&#8221; could look into that, and report his research findings to the CFTC. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll do. The delicious sound of a red-hot cash register, with the dollars (or here, pounds) pouring in like the Niagara falls &#8212;that&#8217;s &#8220;pragmatism&#8221; in its purest form, to me.</a></li>
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		<title>A little lady (who was featured in the ABC 20/20 story about InTrade) claims that she speculated on the McCain and Obama prediction markets and got a R.O.I. of 1,000% in less than a year.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And she is out with a Press release.
Via Fabian John (Financial Services Consultant)
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ABC 20/20 featuring InTrade - (May 9, 2008)

Foretelling The Future: Online Prediction Markets &#8212; (4 pages in all)
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<p>Via <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/2/abb/a58" title="Fabian John" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.linkedin.com');">Fabian John</a> (Financial Services Consultant)</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.abcnews.com/2020" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.abcnews.com');">ABC 20/20</a> featuring <a href="http://www.intrade.com/news/news_220.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.intrade.com');">InTrade</a> - (May 9, 2008)<strong><br />
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		<title>BetFair Malta and Jadestone output yet another simplistic prediction game: TaiKai.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>Directory listing of Betfair price files</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>Has BetFair a little part of responsibility in the collapse of the Kieren Fallon trial (which cost British taxpayers £950,000)?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		
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<p><strong>In the Fallon case (an Irish jockey suspected of collusion with some bettors), the British police investigated the incidents. BetFair provided testimony. But the British justice decided that mister Fallon shouldn&#8217;t be convicted.</strong></p>
<p>This week, the British police aired an <a href="http://www.buzzle.com/articles/196912.html" title="Fallon Inquiry Review Details Police Errors" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.buzzle.com');">internal report</a> about why they lost the case &#8212;<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/16/ukcrime.horseracing" title="Police admit Fallon inquiry mistakes" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.guardian.co.uk');">their fault, they write</a>. I won&#8217;t analyze <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/18/betfair-fallon-debacle/" title="The BetFair--Fallon debacle cost British taxpayers £950,000.">the full case</a> on Midas Oracle, but I just want to touch 2 things:</p>
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<li>The Times (of London) says that &#8220;any prosecution based on <strong>race-reading, that is proving a motive by [analyzing] a jockey&#8217;s ride, is doomed</strong> because it is open to so many interpretations.&#8221;</li>
<li><strong><a href="http://www.buzzle.com/articles/196912.html" title="Fallon Inquiry Review Details Police Errors" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.buzzle.com');">The British Police</a> &#8220;had an inadequate understanding of the nature of online betting exchanges</strong> and the process of laying a horse to lose, the mechanism by which the defendants were alleged to have attempted to profit from fixed races.&#8221;</li>
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<p>This second point was very clear during the trial, and <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/07/there-are-a-bunch-of-bozos-at-betfair-in-the-anti-fraud-and-legal-departments-apparently/" title="There are a bunch of bozos at BetFair, in the anti-fraud and legal departments, apparently.">the media reported</a>, at the time, that <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/12/08/fallon-case-betfair-lawyer-david-oreilly-is-not-the-man-to-say-the-least/" title="FALLON CASE: BetFair lawyer David O’Reilly is not the man… to say the least.">BetFair didn&#8217;t do a good job in making sure that the Police would understand all the facts and mechanisms involved</a>. Below are the media excerpts that make that case.</p>
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<blockquote><p>[...] <strong>[<em>Acting detective inspector</em> Mark Manning] began his investigation by visiting the offices of Betfair</strong>, the company through which the bets involved in the case were made. He was told that Fallon&#8217;s fellow defendant <strong>Miles Rodgers had risked a total of £2m</strong>, but Manning <strong><em>misunderstood</em></strong> and left with the belief that Rodgers had made <em><strong>a net profit</strong></em> of that amount. By the time the trial opened more than three years later, it had become clear that <strong>Rodgers had made <em>a net loss</em> of over £250,000</strong> on the races concerned. [...]</p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://sport.guardian.co.uk/horseracing/story/0,,2224390,00.html" title="Betfair suffers for opening up to police" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/sport.guardian.co.uk');">The Guardian</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>[...] In part, <strong>the fault is Betfair&#8217;s, for failing to ensure that police investigators understood the meaning of the complex evidence they provided, and for passing pages of irrelevant data to the Crown that provided one of many early embarrassments for the prosecution. </strong>[...]</p>
<p>The senior detective in charge of the investigation, Mark Manning, had met [Betfair lawyer David O'Reilly] at Betfair&#8217;s offices earlier that year [in 2004]. <strong>Manning left with a fundamental misunderstanding</strong> - <em>that Rodgers had made a net profit of £2m from his betting activities, when in fact this was the total amount that had been risked</em>. By the time the trial began, it had become clear that the accounts controlled by Rodgers had in fact made a net loss of more than £250,000 on the 27 races investigated.</p>
<p>Betfair provided more than <strong>300 pages of data</strong> in evidence, showing the betting activities of Rodgers&#8217; accounts on these 27 races. O&#8217;Reilly, the first witness called, claimed in court that this data showed how Rodgers would take bets on certain horses at much bigger odds than were being offered by anyone else. Under cross-examination, however, O&#8217;Reilly was led to the realisation that the Betfair data for eight of the 27 races included details of bets made after the race had started, <em>at which point larger odds could be justified by mid-race developments</em>. <strong>Observers were shocked that Betfair could have made such a blunder in handling its own data.</strong></p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article3233810.ece" title="Race fix trial a disgrace: Lynch's father" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk');">The father of one of the accused (and now cleared) jockey</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>The man from Betfair admitted at the start of the trial <em>he had misled police as to the amounts that had been gambled</em> and then they brought in an expert witness from Australia [<a href="http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22891767-5001023,00.html" title="Murrihy a poor judge" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.news.com.au');">Ray Murrihy, Racing NSW's chief steward</a>] <em>who doesn&#8217;t know how things work here</em> [in the U.K.].</strong></p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/horseracing.html?in_article_id=500513&amp;in_page_id=1967" title="Critics have a field day as Fallon corruption case is thrown out" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.dailymail.co.uk');">Daily Mail</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>The case highlighted <em>the difficulty of proving, forensically and legally</em>, that a jockey has tried and succeeded in stopping a horse from winning.</strong></p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>[...] At the end of the day, serious questions will be asked of both City of London Police and the Crown Prosecution Service as to why they agreed to proceed with <strong>a case that was so flawed and had little chance of success.</strong></p></blockquote>
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<p>The image above is static &#8212;it&#8217;s a screen shot of the chart widget, not the chart widget itself. (I haven&#8217;t had access to their code, see, so I am not able to embed it here for you.) To view their updated widget, right-click on the image above, and open the link into a new browser tab.</p>
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<li>First time I see a big UK newspaper associates <strong>&#8220;BetFair&#8221;</strong> with the term <strong>&#8220;prediction markets&#8221;</strong>.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/by_election_crewe_and_nantwich/1995199/Crewe-and-Nantwich-election-predictor.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.telegraph.co.uk');">Their explainer is quite acceptable</a>.</li>
<li>That is a great step for BetFair. Congrats.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/predictions/">I&#8217;d explain things differently</a> &#8212;and I dislike that they suggest that the prediction markets can greatly outperform the polls, described as not &#8220;accurate enough&#8221;. Pollsters do the best they can, it seems to me.</li>
<li>The output that BetFair hands out and the journalists seek are <a href="http://betfair.del.co.uk/crewe.htm" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/betfair.del.co.uk');">probabilities (expressed in percentages)</a> &#8212;not those damn decimal/digital odds.</li>
<li><a href="http://betfair.del.co.uk/crewe.htm" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/betfair.del.co.uk');">The chart widget they use is crappy</a>. I already discussed it. It has usability problems with FireFox. It does not go into feeds. And it&#8217;s not readable enough. Look at the alternative, just below. <strong>(The only reason those idiots of journalists are using that crappy widget is that BetFair customized it for them, by putting their fucking newspaper trademark on top of the widget.)</strong></li>
<li>Anyway, the dead-tree, print newspapers are dying, and <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/20/prediction-market-journalism-6/">the future belongs to blog networks</a>. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </li>
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<p>The chart below is better&#8230; more readable&#8230; and it goes into feeds&#8230; - <strong>But those idiots at the Telegraph won&#8217;t show it to you because it is not pinned with the &#8220;Telegraph&#8221; trademark.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://politics.betfair.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/politics.betfair.com');"><img src="http://politicszone.betfair.com/zone?action=mkt_chart&amp;exch_id=1&amp;mkt_id=20993010&amp;pcts=1&amp;large=1&amp;timestamp=2008-05-21_10:48:27" alt="" /></a></p>
<p>Please, BetFair, do give us the possibility to have a wider time period for the chart data.</p>
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		<title>Putting the prediction markets under the big &#8220;crowdsourcing&#8221; tent</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 09:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Via Keith Anderson (Senior Analyst at RNG)
Chapter 7 - What the Crowd Knows: Collective Intelligence in Action - by Jeff Howe
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He is a Wired journalist.
I prefer stuff written by economists like Robin Hanson, Justin Wolfers, Eric Zitzewitz, Koleman Strumpf, David Pennock, etc.
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<p><a href="http://crowdsourcing.typepad.com/cs/2008/05/chapter-7-wha-1.html" title="What the Crowd Knows: Collective Intelligence in Action" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/crowdsourcing.typepad.com');">Chapter 7 - What the Crowd Knows: Collective Intelligence in Action</a> - by Jeff Howe</p>
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<p>He is a Wired journalist.</p>
<p>I prefer stuff written by economists like Robin Hanson, Justin Wolfers, Eric Zitzewitz, Koleman Strumpf, David Pennock, etc.</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s the point of having the mainstream media journalists writing their own stuff when we can <em>cite</em> the people listed above????</strong></p>
<p>I believe in the <strong>&#8220;In His/Her Own Words&#8221;</strong> principle.</p>
<p>Enough with the journalists. I&#8217;m fed up by them.</p>
<p>The Internet enables us to access directly the people who know. Let&#8217;s bypass the journalists. Let&#8217;s bulldozer this unnecessary filter.</p>
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		<title>If you want to increase the absolute accuracy of the outputs of the prediction markets, try (if you can) to increase the quality of the inputs.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Wanna better political prediction markets? Ask Gallup to generate better polls &#8212;because that&#8217;s what traders eat for breakfast.
I have been telling that to Barry Ritholtz &#8212;but he stays on his position.
Thanks to Barry for listening.
Let&#8217;s move on to another polémique.
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<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/20/prediction-markets-wired/#comment-18777">I have been telling that to Barry Ritholtz</a> &#8212;but <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/05/20/ubber-finance-blogger-barry-ritholtz-believes-in-magic-he-believes-that-with-more-volumes-on-the-event-derivative-markets-comes-the-omniscience-capital-o/#comment-18778">he stays on his position</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks to <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/01/prediction-mark.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/bigpicture.typepad.com');">Barry</a> for listening.</p>
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