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		<title>Ex-HSX Max Keiser disses real-money prediction markets (again). &#8212; [VIDEO]</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/12/28/ex-hsx-max-keiser-disses-real-money-prediction-markets-again-video/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<title>The prediction market ideology still lives on. &#8212; [COMMENT]</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Pennock: Not to put too much faith into the unscientific Gartner hype cycle, but it does feel like a time of backlash responding to some early over optimism. As cooler heads prevail, and the technology speaks for itself, I &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/04/21/the-prediction-market-ideology-still-lives-on-comment/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2011/04/13/prediction-market-winter/#comment-25471">David Pennock</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">Not to put too much faith into the unscientific Gartner hype cycle, but it does feel like a time of backlash responding to some early over optimism. As cooler heads prevail, and the technology speaks for itself, <strong>I think we’ll start to see some solid success stories.</strong></p>
<p>The industry failed because <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/04/15/prediction-market-industry-fail-solution/">its aficionados (Robin Hanson, Justin Wolfers and James Surowiecki) oversold the benefits of the prediction markets</a>. Overselling didn&#8217;t work in the past, and won&#8217;t work in the future. It&#8217;s time for Dave to wake up.</p>
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		<title>David Pennock agrees that snubbing BetFair was a mistake. &#8212; [COMMENT]</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/04/17/david-pennock-betfair-intrade/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Pennock: Due to gambling laws and stigma, the PM industry has tried to distance itself from gambling, betfair, etc., probably mistakenly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/04/15/prediction-market-industry-fail-solution/#comment-27809">David Pennock</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>Due to gambling laws and stigma, the PM industry has tried to distance itself from gambling, betfair, etc., probably mistakenly.</strong></p>
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		<title>Did the prediction market industry fail because of the lack of usability of the prediction markets? &#8212; [REBUTTAL]</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/04/15/prediction-market-industry-fail-solution/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Pennock: I like an analogy of Playstation versus Wii. Just like Wii opened up video gaming to a mass audience including women, I think there’s room for simpler/friendlier sites like smarkets that can open up gambling to a much &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/04/15/prediction-market-industry-fail-solution/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2011/04/13/prediction-market-winter/#comment-24916">David Pennock</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">I like an analogy of Playstation versus Wii. Just like Wii opened up video gaming to a mass audience including women, I think <strong>there’s room for simpler/friendlier sites like smarkets that can open up gambling to a much wider audience</strong> than sites like betfair that seem to cater mostly to men familiar with gambling jargon.</p>
<p>4 more important factors:</p>
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<li>Robin Hanson, James Surowiecki and Justin Wolfers have exaggerated the <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/04/12/fukushima-intrade-prediction-markets-fukushima-nuclear-energy-plant/">usefulness</a> of the <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/predictions/">prediction markets</a>, hence <strong>putting the bar too high.</strong></li>
<li>Robin Hanson, James Surowiecki and Justin Wolfers were clearly the wrong leaders. They pushed the enterprise prediction markets, which proved to be a mirage. John Delaney was also the wrong leader to follow. TradeSports-InTrade was a big operator; InTrade is a niche player. <strong>All the leaders failed.</strong> All of them. Including David Pennock (who has the backing of an Internet giant). On top of that, the prediction market people let the San Francisco clown pollute our turf; he has now decamped for a greener turf, of course. We need better leaders. We need leaders with a better compass.</li>
<li>Real-money prediction markets are <strong>still illegal</strong> in most countries (including in David Pennock&#8217;s one).</li>
<li>North-American aficionados of the prediction markets (and that includes Paul Hewitt) <strong>have always lambasted UK-based BetFair</strong>, for silly reasons (just look up Pennock&#8217;s prose, above, for one instance), instead of making it the hero of our field. On the other side of the Atlantic, the BetFair management has <strong>never joined and supported the prediction market community.</strong></li>
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<p>The result is <a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2011/04/13/prediction-market-winter/">the Waterloo that David Pennock describes in his post</a>, and no solution is proposed (other than the tired mantra, &#8220;yes, we can&#8221;). [Not a slam to research scientist Dave, just a parting way to get the debate going. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  ]</p>
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		<title>David Pennock on the state of the prediction market industry &#8212; [LINK]</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/04/13/david-pennock-on-the-state-of-the-prediction-market-industry-link/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prediction markets offer: Accountability Meritocracy A marketplace to reward information release Real-time updates Accuracy Increasing ease of use, as the technology matures and diffuses Self funding]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://blog.oddhead.com/2011/04/13/prediction-market-winter/">Prediction markets offer</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 180px;">Accountability<br />
Meritocracy<br />
A marketplace to reward information release<br />
Real-time updates<br />
Accuracy<br />
Increasing ease of use, as the technology matures and diffuses<br />
Self funding</p>
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		<title>Prediction markets are unable to accurately predict long-term outcomes, and they have poor records for accuracy and reliability, all of which are crucial for enterprise adoption.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Hewitt: - How far in advance can prediction markets make accurate predictions? - How will we know the point in time when a prediction is &#8216;accurate&#8217;? - Why are there wildly different predictions of the same outcome in different &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2011/01/12/prediction-markets-accuracy-precision-efficiency-reliability-information-completeness-paul-hewitt/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://torontopm.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/prediction-market-prospects-2010/">Paul Hewitt</a>:</strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;">- How far in advance can prediction markets make accurate predictions?<br />
- How will we know the point in time when a prediction is &#8216;accurate&#8217;?<br />
- Why are there wildly different predictions of the same outcome in different prediction markets?<br />
- How do we know which market is accurate?<br />
- Is it a matter of prediction market efficiency?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 120px;"><strong>The real benefit, in my opinion, is that prediction markets provide a better measurement of uncertainty around the outcome than do traditional forecasting methods.</strong></p>
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		<title>Jason Trost on BetFair: They haven&#8217;t innovated much, and they&#8217;re too pricey.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason Trost: Slow innovation: Aside from a few cosmetic tweaks, reliability improvements and the Starting Price feature, Betfair hasn&#8217;t innovated much over the last few years. For a company that boasts several hundred developers, it should be able to release &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/09/23/jason-trost-betfair-innovation-trading-expensive/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://blog.smarkets.com/2010/09/23/betfair-ipo/">Jason Trost</a>:</strong></p>
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<li><strong>Slow innovation:</strong> Aside from a few cosmetic tweaks, reliability  improvements and the Starting Price feature, Betfair hasn&#8217;t innovated  much over the last few years.  For a company that boasts several hundred  developers, it should be able to release more major new features.   Betfair gets very little traffic from organic search and has no social  features apart from a forum.</li>
<li><strong>Outdated tech platform:</strong> Betfair&#8217;s website can be quite slow at  times.  If you look under the hood, there&#8217;s a tangled web of javascript  libraries, iframes, caching servers and images.  Over the years, it has  grown into a technical server farm behemoth that is difficult to upgrade  and maintain.</li>
<li><strong>Tax on top traders:</strong> About a year ago Betfair introduced a &#8216;Premium Charge&#8217; on their most successful traders, taxing their profits up to  20%.  This runs contrary to typical volume rebate schemes where the more  one trades, the smaller the transaction costs one incurs.  The company  claims the tax is to offset the cost of bringing new punters to the  platform, but appears to outsiders as a clear move to increase revenue  taking advantage of Betfair&#8217;s position as a monopoly.</li>
<li><strong>Expensive transaction costs:</strong> Betfair takes 5% of traders&#8217; winnings.   If a trader bets £100 and wins £1000, Betfair will charge £50 for the  transaction.  This is very expensive in a world of $8 online stock  executions.  As betting exchanges become more financial in nature, these  transaction costs will shrink substantially.</li>
<li><strong>Market Size and Competition:</strong> As Greg Wood from the Guardian <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/sep/14/betfair-flotation-betting-america">wrote</a> recently, horse racing liquidity has hit a ceiling.  Will Betfair be  able to maintain the revenue growth?  With high costs and a smaller  profit margin than <a href="http://www.paddypower.com/">Paddy Power</a>,  Betfair has found itself in a bit of &#8216;grow or die&#8217; situation.  It will  need to find ways to entice more customers to join its platform and  spend their betting dollars with them.  Betfair is looking to new sports &#8212; particularly football &#8212; and overseas markets like the US, China and  India as opportunities for growth.</li>
<li><strong>Headcount:</strong> Betfair has a tech team close to 500 people.  While there  is strength in numbers at times, the most successful tech projects in  history started with small, nimble teams. The more tech people involved  on a product, the less agile a company can be.  Adapting to changing  tech trends can be a crucial ingredient to remaining competitive in  today&#8217;s internet startup world.</li>
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		<title>A somewhat simplistic, but nonetheless interesting, article in which the predictive quality of the BetFair market is slagged off, because it upsets their traditional form book study methods (by implication, of course, if they are right, then everybody could/should/would just follow the late money and win).</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Ex-BetFair Mark Davies defends betting in the wake of the latest sport corruption affair. &#8211; [VIDEO]</title>
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		<title>Cantor Exchange and Trend Exchange defend the usefulness of movie hedging.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lions Gate vice chairman Michael Burns said the markets â€œwould allow a diverse group of motion picture industry participants, including studios, film distributors, theater owners, investors and other financial intermediaries within the motion picture industry to manage their risk and &#8230; <a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2010/04/23/cantor-exchange-trend-exchange-movie-hedging/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/23/business/media/23futures.html?dbk">Lions Gate vice chairman Michael Burns</a> said <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3icc341acc4f9c061e9769895424cc207a">the markets</a> â€œ<a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/bizblog/2010/04/23/how-is-a-movie-like-an-onion/">would</a> allow <a href="http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118018180.html?categoryId=3284&amp;cs=1">a diverse group of motion picture industry participants</a>, including <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/04/hollywood-stock-exchange-wars-episode-iv-lionsgate-strikes-back.html">studios, film distributors, theater owners, investors and other financial intermediaries</a> within <a href="http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/congress-futures-traders-it-would-be-sheer-folly-16563">the motion picture industry</a> to <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-22/movie-futures-in-review-cftc-tells-skeptical-panel-update1-.html">manage their risk and exposure to new film releases</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>â€œWe believe <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100423-706331.html">a market in domestic box office receipts</a> would substantially widen the number and breadth of financing sources available to the motion picture industry by <span style="color: #ff0000;">lowering the risk</span> inherent in such financing,â€ <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/04/us-senators-voice-opposition-to-movie-futures-contracts.html">Burns wrote</a>.</strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/04/democracy-in-action.html">Robin Hanson is in favor of movie business futures</a>.</strong></p>
<p>ADDENDUM:</p>
<p>- &#8220;<a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/04/geithner-no-ban-on-movie-futures.html">Geithner also rejected the ban on creating a movie futures market, saying you don&#8217;t want &#8216;Washington bureaucrats&#8217; stifling innovation.</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>- Jason Ruspini sends us <a href="http://ag.senate.gov/site/ComLeg/Wall%20Street%20Transparency%20and%20Accountability%20Act.pdf">the link of the Senate bill</a>.</p>
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