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	<title>Comments on: The Alderney Gambling Control Commission: you follow the rules but you still don&#8217;t get paid. Why bother with regulation at all?</title>
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		<title>By: Gambling Commission and DCMS stance on the Alderney Gambling Control Commission, a regulator which condones its licensees&#8217; unlawful behaviour &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21291</link>
		<dc:creator>Gambling Commission and DCMS stance on the Alderney Gambling Control Commission, a regulator which condones its licensees&#8217; unlawful behaviour &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] August 27th, 2008 This is a follow up to my Alderney Gambling Control Commission [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris F. Masse</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21128</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caruso: Yes, do a post.
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Hummm... the anti-spam plugin is too strong...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caruso: Yes, do a post.<br />
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Hummm&#8230; the anti-spam plugin is too strong&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caruso</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21126</link>
		<dc:creator>Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that's OK with you Chris, I certainly will.

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What I did was to repost without links, then go back in and do some furious editing. 

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Got it right on about the tenth attempt. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s OK with you Chris, I certainly will.</p>
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<p>What I did was to repost without links, then go back in and do some furious editing. </p>
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<p>Got it right on about the tenth attempt. <img src='http://www.midasoracle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris F. Masse</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21119</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caruso: You could publish that as a blog post, too. So more people will see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caruso: You could publish that as a blog post, too. So more people will see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris F. Masse</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21118</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caruso: I see it worked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caruso: I see it worked out.</p>
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		<title>By: Caruso</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21117</link>
		<dc:creator>Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll try again.

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I sent this to the &lt;a href="http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Gambling Commission&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://www.culture.gov.uk/" rel="nofollow"&gt;DCMS&lt;/a&gt;, with the AGCC copied in:

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"Dear Sirs,

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I am emailing this to both the DCMS and the Gambling Commission as I am unsure who is the most appropriate recipient. I am also sending a copy to the AGCC.

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Regarding the matter of the whitelisting of the Alderney Gambling Control Commission:

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&lt;a href="http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/gambling_and_racing/3310.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/gambling_and_racing/3310.aspx&lt;/a&gt;

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The whitelist entitles operators under these jurisdictions to advertise in the United Kingdom.

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The Alderney Gambling Control Commission recently issued a decision on a dispute between a player and an Alderney operator, one PKR Casino. I have written an article on the matter to which I'll provide a link at the bottom of this email at which you will be able to access all relevant details. However, in summary: the AGCC found in favour of the operator, where the operator had confiscated funds from a player who had not broken any rules. The AGCC confirmed, in its findings, that the player had not broken any rules, but maintained that the operator was entitled to withhold funds notwithstanding.

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This has set a precedent for all players of Alderney-based online gambling operations, a precedent which effectively ensures that no player funds, legitimately earned through a strict observance of all rules, are safe, on the basis that the AGCC will not require their licensees to enforce payment under such conditions; moreover, they will support their licensees' right to confiscate such legitimately-earned funds.

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These casinos, under the jurisdiction of the Alderney Gambling Control Commission, have full entitlement to advertise in the United Kingdom, and as such, the funds of United Kingdom residents can be, and have already been, put in what is surely to be considered unacceptable jeopardy.

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My article can be read here:

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(link as above)

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What is your stance on the granting of advertising priviledges to a licencing jurisdicion, such as Alderney, which does not require that its licensee operators pay their players in full, where those players have broken no rules and have as such fullfilled all rules of the written contract? Is it acceptable that players in the UK be placed in the jeopardy that the Alderney jurisdiction represents? Can whitelist priviledges be revoked under such circumstances?

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Yours Faithfully,

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try again.</p>
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<p>I sent this to the <a href="http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/" rel="nofollow">Gambling Commission</a> and the <a href="http://www.culture.gov.uk/" rel="nofollow">DCMS</a>, with the AGCC copied in:</p>
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<p>&#8220;Dear Sirs,</p>
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<p>I am emailing this to both the DCMS and the Gambling Commission as I am unsure who is the most appropriate recipient. I am also sending a copy to the AGCC.</p>
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<p>Regarding the matter of the whitelisting of the Alderney Gambling Control Commission:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/gambling_and_racing/3310.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.culture.gov.uk/what...../3310.aspx</a></p>
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<p>The whitelist entitles operators under these jurisdictions to advertise in the United Kingdom.</p>
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<p>The Alderney Gambling Control Commission recently issued a decision on a dispute between a player and an Alderney operator, one PKR Casino. I have written an article on the matter to which I&#8217;ll provide a link at the bottom of this email at which you will be able to access all relevant details. However, in summary: the AGCC found in favour of the operator, where the operator had confiscated funds from a player who had not broken any rules. The AGCC confirmed, in its findings, that the player had not broken any rules, but maintained that the operator was entitled to withhold funds notwithstanding.</p>
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<p>This has set a precedent for all players of Alderney-based online gambling operations, a precedent which effectively ensures that no player funds, legitimately earned through a strict observance of all rules, are safe, on the basis that the AGCC will not require their licensees to enforce payment under such conditions; moreover, they will support their licensees&#8217; right to confiscate such legitimately-earned funds.</p>
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<p>These casinos, under the jurisdiction of the Alderney Gambling Control Commission, have full entitlement to advertise in the United Kingdom, and as such, the funds of United Kingdom residents can be, and have already been, put in what is surely to be considered unacceptable jeopardy.</p>
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<p>My article can be read here:</p>
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<p>(link as above)</p>
<p>-</p>
<p>What is your stance on the granting of advertising priviledges to a licencing jurisdicion, such as Alderney, which does not require that its licensee operators pay their players in full, where those players have broken no rules and have as such fullfilled all rules of the written contract? Is it acceptable that players in the UK be placed in the jeopardy that the Alderney jurisdiction represents? Can whitelist priviledges be revoked under such circumstances?</p>
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<p>Yours Faithfully,</p>
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<p>Etc.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Caruso</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21116</link>
		<dc:creator>Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can a comment I attempt to post, with links to the Gambling Commission and the DCMS, "seem a bit spammy"?

Shrug. Whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a comment I attempt to post, with links to the Gambling Commission and the DCMS, &#8220;seem a bit spammy&#8221;?</p>
<p>Shrug. Whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandracer</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21034</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rule says playthrough the credits to the tune of for example: 20x deposit &#38; bonus, and a popup informs the player while they are gambling that they can cashout, as they have met the terms and conditions specified.

But according to Alderney to cashout once the terms have been met, warrants the casino the right to not payout the winner. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rule says playthrough the credits to the tune of for example: 20x deposit &amp; bonus, and a popup informs the player while they are gambling that they can cashout, as they have met the terms and conditions specified.</p>
<p>But according to Alderney to cashout once the terms have been met, warrants the casino the right to not payout the winner. </p>
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		<title>By: Caruso</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-21020</link>
		<dc:creator>Caruso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The silence, unsurprisingly, is deafening.

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No surprise. These people, and the industry as a whole, think they can say and do whatever and the PR bandwagon will just keep rolling along. They are by and large correct, as they have big media networks available where we have little to nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The silence, unsurprisingly, is deafening.</p>
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<p>No surprise. These people, and the industry as a whole, think they can say and do whatever and the PR bandwagon will just keep rolling along. They are by and large correct, as they have big media networks available where we have little to nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris F. Masse</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/07/31/alderney-gambling-control-commission/#comment-20974</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris F. Masse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caruso: Good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caruso: Good.</p>
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