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	<title>Comments on: One un-hired job candidate and one HammerSmith employee tell all about BetFair Malta&#8217;s combo market maker (trading algorithm + human market makers) operating on the multiples.</title>
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		<title>By: Reverse engineering of a nasty BetFair rumor that made rounds on Midas Oracle and elsewhere &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-18816</link>
		<dc:creator>Reverse engineering of a nasty BetFair rumor that made rounds on Midas Oracle and elsewhere &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One un-hired job candidate told everyone who would listen that BetFair was preparing to do some hidden market-making on their betting exchange &#8212;hiring a &#38;#82.... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BetFair is as innocent as a lamb&#8230; but their P.R. people can&#8217;t tell you that at this time. Here&#8217;s why. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17717</link>
		<dc:creator>BetFair is as innocent as a lamb&#8230; but their P.R. people can&#8217;t tell you that at this time. Here&#8217;s why. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the rumor that BetFair UK (in HammerSmith, London) have been hiring what was described as a team of human market makers, whose task would be to operate on the BetFair betting exchange. That rumor has lead some to think [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the rumor that BetFair UK (in HammerSmith, London) have been hiring what was described as a team of human market makers, whose task would be to operate on the BetFair betting exchange. That rumor has lead some to think [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BetFair Malta’s combo market maker (trading algorithm + human market makers) operating on the multiples &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17661</link>
		<dc:creator>BetFair Malta’s combo market maker (trading algorithm + human market makers) operating on the multiples &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One un-hired job candidate and one HammerSmith employee tell all about BetFair Malta’s combo marke... Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:MIDAS ORACLE POWER: People googling about BetFair's [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One un-hired job candidate and one HammerSmith employee tell all about BetFair Malta’s combo marke&#8230; Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:MIDAS ORACLE POWER: People googling about BetFair&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Pennock, a respected expert in prediction markets and market design, discusses some aspects of BetFair&#8217;s new bet matching logic. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17655</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pennock, a respected expert in prediction markets and market design, discusses some aspects of BetFair&#8217;s new bet matching logic. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One un-hired job candidate and one HammerSmith employee tell all about BetFair Malta’s combo marke... Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:MIDAS ORACLE POWER: People googling about BetFair's [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One un-hired job candidate and one HammerSmith employee tell all about BetFair Malta’s combo marke&#8230; Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:MIDAS ORACLE POWER: People googling about BetFair&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BetFair’s new bet matching logic + BetFair Malta&#8217;s trading on the multiples &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17582</link>
		<dc:creator>BetFair’s new bet matching logic + BetFair Malta&#8217;s trading on the multiples &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One un-hired job candidate and one HammerSmith employee tell all about BetFair Malta’s combo marke...  Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:Dick Cheney, the new Churchill?BetFair Malta’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One un-hired job candidate and one HammerSmith employee tell all about BetFair Malta’s combo marke&#8230;  Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:Dick Cheney, the new Churchill?BetFair Malta’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Graham "Sharp" Minds</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17567</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham "Sharp" Minds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loki Lab Rat-Betfair Employee

&#34;They have software which tells them what the risk is associated with a potential result is and suggests what hedge bets can be placed to mitigate that risk at current exchange prices. They then place the hedge bets to manage the risk.&#34;

Once the alogorithm for this software is perfected it will no longer &#34;suggest&#34; potenential &#34;hedge bets&#34; but will actually place them as a fully functional bot on the betfair exchange.

Graham &#34;sharp&#34; Minds-Interveiwed by betfair

&#34;If this new cross-matching bot is being called a superbot, then this will be the hyperbot. A bot which will perfectly arb the mutiple bets into the exchange so betfair can make money from it’s mutiples operation risk free&#34;

The perfection of the algorithym was one of the things betfair asked me in my interview if I could help solve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loki Lab Rat-Betfair Employee</p>
<p>&quot;They have software which tells them what the risk is associated with a potential result is and suggests what hedge bets can be placed to mitigate that risk at current exchange prices. They then place the hedge bets to manage the risk.&quot;</p>
<p>Once the alogorithm for this software is perfected it will no longer &quot;suggest&quot; potenential &quot;hedge bets&quot; but will actually place them as a fully functional bot on the betfair exchange.</p>
<p>Graham &quot;sharp&quot; Minds-Interveiwed by betfair</p>
<p>&quot;If this new cross-matching bot is being called a superbot, then this will be the hyperbot. A bot which will perfectly arb the mutiple bets into the exchange so betfair can make money from it’s mutiples operation risk free&quot;</p>
<p>The perfection of the algorithym was one of the things betfair asked me in my interview if I could help solve.</p>
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		<title>By: BetFair withdraws/improves its brand-new matching-bet logic, which was (kind of) endorsed by the Chairman of the Midas Oracle Advisory Board. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17556</link>
		<dc:creator>BetFair withdraws/improves its brand-new matching-bet logic, which was (kind of) endorsed by the Chairman of the Midas Oracle Advisory Board. &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] didn&#8217;t clear up the issue of how and when BetFair operates on its own markets, though. Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:Proponents say the creativity and anonymous [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] didn&#8217;t clear up the issue of how and when BetFair operates on its own markets, though. Read the previous blog posts by Chris F. Masse:Proponents say the creativity and anonymous [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is the BetFair marketing message a big lie? &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17550</link>
		<dc:creator>Is the BetFair marketing message a big lie? &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rab Bibater&#8217;s comment on Midas Oracle: [&#8230;] BetFair needs to nip the current round of noise in the bud once and for all. It needs to clarify its own advertisements, in which it states that &#8220;Because you are betting against other punters, &#8216;you could&#8217; get better value;&#8221; which in the light of alleged revelations that its trades in its own markets, would seem to amount to a misrepresentation. [&#8230;] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rab Bibater&#8217;s comment on Midas Oracle: [&#8230;] BetFair needs to nip the current round of noise in the bud once and for all. It needs to clarify its own advertisements, in which it states that &#8220;Because you are betting against other punters, &#8216;you could&#8217; get better value;&#8221; which in the light of alleged revelations that its trades in its own markets, would seem to amount to a misrepresentation. [&#8230;] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rab Bibater</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17549</link>
		<dc:creator>Rab Bibater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betfair parades itself as being a revolutionary company.  A revolutionary company, however, cannot aford to have skeletons in its cupboards.  Nor can it afford to be seen as a company that exploits a weak regulator and pulls the wool over a betting public, whose only source of information is a bunch of self-interested, self-promoting fools on the UK's racing channels and Channel 4.

Betfair needs to nip the current round of noise in the bud once and for all.  It needs to clarify its own advertisements, in which it states that &#34;Because you are betting against other punters, &#34;you could&#34; get better value;&#34; which in the light of alleged revelations that its trades in its own markets, would seem to amount to a misrepresentation.

Regardless of what Betfair is and is not doing, its various schemes are primarily designed to increase the company's revenue.  All well and good, but as revenue increases, so transaction costs should be coming down; or is the extra revenue being employed to hold up some more shaky parts of the empire ...such as poker, gaming and Timeform?

The head in the sand approach, which has worked so well in the past, may just be about to unravel.

P&#62;S..One has to wonder about the incompetency of those that run Betdaq; who, when presented with an opportunity to steal market share from Betfair, do sweet FA........not wanting to upset the Bet Chronicle apple cart perhaps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betfair parades itself as being a revolutionary company.  A revolutionary company, however, cannot aford to have skeletons in its cupboards.  Nor can it afford to be seen as a company that exploits a weak regulator and pulls the wool over a betting public, whose only source of information is a bunch of self-interested, self-promoting fools on the UK&#8217;s racing channels and Channel 4.</p>
<p>Betfair needs to nip the current round of noise in the bud once and for all.  It needs to clarify its own advertisements, in which it states that &quot;Because you are betting against other punters, &quot;you could&quot; get better value;&quot; which in the light of alleged revelations that its trades in its own markets, would seem to amount to a misrepresentation.</p>
<p>Regardless of what Betfair is and is not doing, its various schemes are primarily designed to increase the company&#8217;s revenue.  All well and good, but as revenue increases, so transaction costs should be coming down; or is the extra revenue being employed to hold up some more shaky parts of the empire &#8230;such as poker, gaming and Timeform?</p>
<p>The head in the sand approach, which has worked so well in the past, may just be about to unravel.</p>
<p>P&gt;S..One has to wonder about the incompetency of those that run Betdaq; who, when presented with an opportunity to steal market share from Betfair, do sweet FA&#8230;&#8230;..not wanting to upset the Bet Chronicle apple cart perhaps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ??? BetFair bet-matching logic ??? &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2008/03/18/betfair-malta-multiples/#comment-17547</link>
		<dc:creator>??? BetFair bet-matching logic ??? &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has just written a comment bringing in some intriguing (but yet unconfirmed) facts [UPDATE: FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR MORE INFORMATION]:   Just one point, Betfair have already hired a team of traders to bet into its own markets last [...]</description>
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