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	<title>Comments on: Keith Jacks Gamble: simExchange is somewhat OK, but will remained confined in play-money land.</title>
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		<title>By: Keith Jacks Gamble</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/10/keith-jacks-gamble-simexchange-is-somewhat-ok-but-will-remained-confined-in-play-money-land/#comment-7478</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Jacks Gamble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the simExchange is great and works great.  The second point of my original post &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/06/simexchange-a-keynesian-beauty-contest/&quot;&gt;simExchange a Keynesian beauty contest&lt;/a&gt;&quot; is to explain why it works.  My first point was to critique Shiau&#039;s analogy of game stocks to Wall Street stocks. While I agree there are similarities, there  is one big difference (shares have no intrinsic value) that I wanted to emphasize for Midas Oracle readers, who are crazy about the workings of prediction markets.  Even so, I think Shiau&#039;s analogy is a great way to explain the simExchange to a broad audience.

I agree that the simExchange could work with real money using other types of securities; my point is that it could never work in its current form.  If it could, then the exchange could expect to make a gozillion dollars from IPOs of game shares.  In a corporate IPO, the owners give up some of their claim on the assets of the company in exchange for cash.  Since game shares aren&#039;t claims on anything tangible, a game stock IPO would generate free money for the exchange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the simExchange is great and works great.  The second point of my original post &#8220;<a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/06/simexchange-a-keynesian-beauty-contest/">simExchange a Keynesian beauty contest</a>&#8221; is to explain why it works.  My first point was to critique Shiau&#8217;s analogy of game stocks to Wall Street stocks. While I agree there are similarities, there  is one big difference (shares have no intrinsic value) that I wanted to emphasize for Midas Oracle readers, who are crazy about the workings of prediction markets.  Even so, I think Shiau&#8217;s analogy is a great way to explain the simExchange to a broad audience.</p>
<p>I agree that the simExchange could work with real money using other types of securities; my point is that it could never work in its current form.  If it could, then the exchange could expect to make a gozillion dollars from IPOs of game shares.  In a corporate IPO, the owners give up some of their claim on the assets of the company in exchange for cash.  Since game shares aren&#8217;t claims on anything tangible, a game stock IPO would generate free money for the exchange.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ruspini</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/10/keith-jacks-gamble-simexchange-is-somewhat-ok-but-will-remained-confined-in-play-money-land/#comment-7454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Ruspini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SimExchange could work with real money by using something like Shiller&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=ojhMsQTvDmAC&amp;pg=RA1-PA42&amp;lpg=RA1-PA42&amp;dq=perpetual+futures&amp;source=web&amp;ots=7bCTNnTmib&amp;sig=mhBH38YE6YZtmPg_wlsDsH-soO0&quot;&gt;perpetual futures&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/06/simexchange-a-keynesian-beauty-contest/#comment-6130&quot;&gt;Again&lt;/a&gt;, another advantage of SimExchange is that because of the obsolescence of game titles, while the contracts are perpetual, they effectively are not &quot;perpetuities&quot;, and will react more straightforwardly to incoming data. The data just has to be reasonably accurate and frequent.

How to discount those future sales is a consequence of the play-money / rank-order structure of the exchange. Essentially the risk appetites that such a game causes will lead to a very high discount rate on sales in subsequent years. In other words, traders want to catch the initial high percentage 100,000 to 1 million move, and don&#039;t care so much about the 1.5mm to 1.75mm move in year three.  

This is also a consequence of the margining system, whereby it looks as though buyers must freeze the full value of a contract even though the value should not go down in terms of actual sales, barring a restatement.  Sellers only need to freeze a certain percentage of the contract value though, and this asymmetry could further mitigate buying manipulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SimExchange could work with real money by using something like Shiller&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ojhMsQTvDmAC&#038;pg=RA1-PA42&#038;lpg=RA1-PA42&#038;dq=perpetual+futures&#038;source=web&#038;ots=7bCTNnTmib&#038;sig=mhBH38YE6YZtmPg_wlsDsH-soO0">perpetual futures</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/06/simexchange-a-keynesian-beauty-contest/#comment-6130">Again</a>, another advantage of SimExchange is that because of the obsolescence of game titles, while the contracts are perpetual, they effectively are not &#8220;perpetuities&#8221;, and will react more straightforwardly to incoming data. The data just has to be reasonably accurate and frequent.</p>
<p>How to discount those future sales is a consequence of the play-money / rank-order structure of the exchange. Essentially the risk appetites that such a game causes will lead to a very high discount rate on sales in subsequent years. In other words, traders want to catch the initial high percentage 100,000 to 1 million move, and don&#8217;t care so much about the 1.5mm to 1.75mm move in year three.  </p>
<p>This is also a consequence of the margining system, whereby it looks as though buyers must freeze the full value of a contract even though the value should not go down in terms of actual sales, barring a restatement.  Sellers only need to freeze a certain percentage of the contract value though, and this asymmetry could further mitigate buying manipulations.</p>
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