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		<title>By: The gamble of downplaying manipulation &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/09/the-giuliani-manipulator-buyer-is-back/#comment-22149</link>
		<dc:creator>The gamble of downplaying manipulation &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HRC attack, part 2 The Giuliani manipulator buyer is back. Manipulation can affect prices. Is there manipulation in the Hillary Clinton Intrade market? Is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The gamble of downplaying manipulation &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/09/the-giuliani-manipulator-buyer-is-back/#comment-22150</link>
		<dc:creator>The gamble of downplaying manipulation &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] HRC attack, part 2 The Giuliani manipulator buyer is back. Manipulation can affect prices. Is there manipulation in the Hillary Clinton Intrade market? Is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Prediction Market Manipulations &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/09/the-giuliani-manipulator-buyer-is-back/#comment-21960</link>
		<dc:creator>Prediction Market Manipulations &#124; Midas Oracle .ORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Crampton</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/09/the-giuliani-manipulator-buyer-is-back/#comment-9224</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Crampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out 2 PM 14 March.  A little over $2K in trading in 5 minutes, knocking the price up from 40 to 42.  Another $1500 since then keeping it there.  Thick order book.  Some folks have deeper pockets than I have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out 2 PM 14 March.  A little over $2K in trading in 5 minutes, knocking the price up from 40 to 42.  Another $1500 since then keeping it there.  Thick order book.  Some folks have deeper pockets than I have.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ruspini</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/09/the-giuliani-manipulator-buyer-is-back/#comment-9178</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Ruspini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify, I meant that the exchange should publish overall open interest data (which is required by CFTC-regulated exchanges), not that they should publish individual trader positions, which is unheard of.

Of course the exchange might not want to publish even overall numbers, as that would give less &quot;cover&quot; to their biggest customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, I meant that the exchange should publish overall open interest data (which is required by CFTC-regulated exchanges), not that they should publish individual trader positions, which is unheard of.</p>
<p>Of course the exchange might not want to publish even overall numbers, as that would give less &#8220;cover&#8221; to their biggest customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Ruspini</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/09/the-giuliani-manipulator-buyer-is-back/#comment-8785</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Ruspini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you come to Intrade with enough money, you can probably negotiate special margin arrangements, but yes the notional value and maximum loss associated with this trader&#039;s position is already quite high, possibly up to $50,000, which is huge for these markets, if tiny for established markets.

&lt;i&gt;Intrade should publish open interest data&lt;/i&gt;, which would make what happened at 33.3 much more clear.  What is somewhat clear is that our buyer has purchased over 4000 contracts near 40 within the past few days.  Given the action at 33.3, his position is conceivably over 15000 contracts.  In any case, if there is any negative news on Giuliani, &lt;i&gt;the trader will not be able to exit his position in a timely fashion, at reasonable prices&lt;/i&gt;.  He is simply too big for the market as it stands. This leads one to think that he is in it for the long haul, willing to risk most of his maximum loss, and much of it to liquidity.  And yet he is still buying, with an additional 7000 contracts currently near the bid.

&lt;i&gt;Perhaps he actually knows something and the market is functioning well, reflecting his information.&lt;/i&gt;  But even if, say, Romney is about to drop out, the buying is very aggressive and he won&#039;t be able to effectively liquidate in any bounce.  Perhaps it is an actual hedger?  In both these cases, however, why make the pretense of the market-maker spiel?  Also, &lt;i&gt;if the trader is someone close to a politician, it is a risk in itself for them to be trading conspicuously on a de facto illegal offshore exchange during US hours.&lt;/i&gt;

Selling the Giuliani / McCain spread seems like a good trade, but if you look at the McCain market, &lt;i&gt;less than 150 contracts are offered below 40&lt;/i&gt;, which underscores how large our Giuliani trader is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you come to Intrade with enough money, you can probably negotiate special margin arrangements, but yes the notional value and maximum loss associated with this trader&#8217;s position is already quite high, possibly up to $50,000, which is huge for these markets, if tiny for established markets.</p>
<p><i>Intrade should publish open interest data</i>, which would make what happened at 33.3 much more clear.  What is somewhat clear is that our buyer has purchased over 4000 contracts near 40 within the past few days.  Given the action at 33.3, his position is conceivably over 15000 contracts.  In any case, if there is any negative news on Giuliani, <i>the trader will not be able to exit his position in a timely fashion, at reasonable prices</i>.  He is simply too big for the market as it stands. This leads one to think that he is in it for the long haul, willing to risk most of his maximum loss, and much of it to liquidity.  And yet he is still buying, with an additional 7000 contracts currently near the bid.</p>
<p><i>Perhaps he actually knows something and the market is functioning well, reflecting his information.</i>  But even if, say, Romney is about to drop out, the buying is very aggressive and he won&#8217;t be able to effectively liquidate in any bounce.  Perhaps it is an actual hedger?  In both these cases, however, why make the pretense of the market-maker spiel?  Also, <i>if the trader is someone close to a politician, it is a risk in itself for them to be trading conspicuously on a de facto illegal offshore exchange during US hours.</i></p>
<p>Selling the Giuliani / McCain spread seems like a good trade, but if you look at the McCain market, <i>less than 150 contracts are offered below 40</i>, which underscores how large our Giuliani trader is.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Crampton</title>
		<link>http://www.midasoracle.org/2007/03/09/the-giuliani-manipulator-buyer-is-back/#comment-8392</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Crampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The order book looks bloody weird.  On the bid side, 50 at the high bid of 39.9 (fine), 500 at 38.8, 5098 at 38.0, then 100 on every decimal point from 37.8 down to 37.3.  It would take close to $20K to cover that bid at 38, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The order book looks bloody weird.  On the bid side, 50 at the high bid of 39.9 (fine), 500 at 38.8, 5098 at 38.0, then 100 on every decimal point from 37.8 down to 37.3.  It would take close to $20K to cover that bid at 38, no?</p>
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